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    [Plugin] WireTool (Catenary) (1.4.1) – updated 06.03.2013

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    • Dave RD Offline
      Dave R
      last edited by

      So now I've updated the plugin and added the line as mentioned. I get some rather strange behavior now. See the video.

      [flash=420,315:13s7e1sa]http://www.youtube.com/v/7IJXmgk8lio?version=3&hl=en_US[/flash:13s7e1sa]

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        I have the original version [that works] if anyone wants it... 😕

        TIG

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
          last edited by

          I guess I'd be interested.

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          • R Offline
            raineysky
            last edited by

            I would very much like to have it if it makes rope. I tried it but got results like Dave shows in the video.

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            • Dave RD Offline
              Dave R
              last edited by

              That apparently fixed it. Thank you.

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              • McGyverM Offline
                McGyver
                last edited by

                This is very cool! Thank you!

                Edited to add- This is REALLY cool! I was just messing around with it and it works great for something I was making. THANKS!

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                  Aerilius
                  last edited by

                  Tools normally don't have weird behavior without reason. Running it with the Ruby console open gives often more definable results.
                  So I found and fixed an unobvious bug with the translations that stirred up all methods and I changed that the x-width of segments is variable to give always the same segment length.

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                  • M Offline
                    Michaelv
                    last edited by

                    Great Thanks.

                    There was another catenary tool (and other geometric curves too) here:
                    http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=41310

                    I needed to make them like this though.

                    See below however, the first segment is much longer and they become smaller as they go on the curve:


                    Cats.jpg

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                    • A Offline
                      Aerilius
                      last edited by

                      @Michaelv: Thanks for noticing this! It was not much visible with little sagging (110%) but with big sagging. Sorry that it took some time (it's not easy to do math with curve lengths).
                      I fixed it now.

                      I also thought about the problem and find that the corners/endpoints a even less noticeable when I use equal angles between the segments. If you prefer equal segment lengths, you can change the parameter @@segments_distribution_mode to 1 inside the script.

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                      • M Offline
                        Michaelv
                        last edited by

                        Thanks!

                        A nice option (but I can do it when I get a minute) would be for the start to start either like you did (wire) or horizontal )like a cable that's more rigid, yet supported by posts.
                        Toggle with alt/option

                        I think all it takes is force the angle at point of attachment to be horizontal, and the equation would take care of the rest. But maybe not. 😄
                        Never mind, I looked at it and the equation as it stands is for tension always parallel to the tangent of the curve, thus deflection equations (with rigidity, etc..) at the boundary would have to be used until that is the case. too complicated for the time being.

                        Danke Shoen!

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                        • M Offline
                          moluasa
                          last edited by

                          Might also be cool to work with for line art!

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                          • A Offline
                            Aerilius
                            last edited by

                            Minor update (1.4.0):

                            • converted it into a SketchUp Extension (that you can turn on/off)
                            • added icons and cursor
                              Please remove older version if you update.
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                            • OxerO Offline
                              Oxer
                              last edited by

                              Thanks for the update!!
                              This is the spanish language:
                              %(#FF0000)["es" => {
                              "Draw Wires" => "Dibujar Cables",
                              "Catenary" => "Catenaria",
                              "Tool to draw catenary curves." => "Herramienta para dibujar curvas catenarias."
                              "Arc Length" => "Longitud Arco",
                              "Segments" => "Segmentos",
                              "Distance" => "Distancia",
                              "Select first end" => "Selecciona Primer Final",
                              "Select second end" => "Selecciona Segundo Final"
                              },]
                              You can to include in the next version.

                              EDIT: On Mac the icon doesn't show but I have added the line below in the end of the WireTool.rb file and now it shows:

                                 %(#FF0000)[UI::Toolbar.new(@@translate["Draw Wires"]).add_item(cmd)]
                              

                              "The result is the end what is important is the process" by Oxer
                              [http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/(http://www.oxervision.blogspot.com/)]

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                                Aerilius
                                last edited by

                                Thanks!

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                                • gillesG Offline
                                  gilles
                                  last edited by

                                  I notice that you specify a length you always got a approximation, not the desired length.

                                  " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                    Aerilius
                                    last edited by

                                    That has two reasons: SketchUp has no curves and like arcs, the length of these catenary curves isn't the sum of the segments.
                                    The other reason is that the numerical algorithm needs many many more iterations to reduce the bulge if the curve is almost straight (100% should theoretically give a straight line). I'm working on improving this.

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                                    • gillesG Offline
                                      gilles
                                      last edited by

                                      Good work by the way, a useful one.

                                      " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                      • A Offline
                                        Aerilius
                                        last edited by

                                        Just to give you an idea: I increased the number of iterations (at every mouse move) from 10 to 150 and the overlength is still half of what it was before (and 150 iterations is far too much). But at least I know which part to optimize.

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                                        • Bob JamesB Offline
                                          Bob James
                                          last edited by

                                          @aerilius said:

                                          Minor update (1.4.0):- added icons and cursor

                                          I don't see "draw wires" in my toolbar list

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            @bob james said:

                                            @aerilius said:

                                            Minor update (1.4.0):- added icons and cursor

                                            I don't see "draw wires" in my toolbar list

                                            Did you first activate its Extension under Preferences ?

                                            TIG

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