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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
      last edited by

      @gilles said:

      Here we go!

      amazing!

      you're a genius!

      it's perfect.

      dotdotdot

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      • andybotA Offline
        andybot
        last edited by

        Dat is *&^$@# genius!! 😲 nice work gilles πŸ˜„

        http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          Seems too simple! πŸ˜„
          Only PushPull ! πŸ˜‰

          But why there is a mini glitch ? 😲

          jeffpull.jpg


          Jeffpush.skp

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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          • jason_marantoJ Offline
            jason_maranto
            last edited by

            Very clever gilles -- makes perfect sense and needs no math to execute πŸ‘ πŸ‘

            Best,
            Jason.

            I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              VERY clever Pilou !
              Bravo to you too.

              Here's my slight reworking of your brilliant ideas, with some explanatory notes.
              I think this way is a little simpler and easier to see what's happening.
              😎


              PilouRakingRailAlt.PNG


              PilouRakingRailAlt.skp

              TIG

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
                last edited by

                @TIG
                Cool but there is a little mystery πŸ˜‰
                In your file (from the mine modified) tichkness is not 1.000000m but 0.997509m
                CD = 1.320818 m
                Or you don't change the drawing and just type the text's explanations for only the theory?

                In a nurbs modeler with the Technic of circle (first example of Jeff video) (with of course sames measures)
                CD = 1.3239127 m & angle 40.945192Β°

                The adventure is not finished! πŸ˜„

                [flash=560,315:2erysmt0]http://www.youtube.com/v/ww17dNJt_LQ[/flash:2erysmt0]

                File nurbs format 3dm


                tig_jeff.zip

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • pbacotP Offline
                  pbacot
                  last edited by

                  Gilles,

                  I Have no idea how you figured that out 😲 One snaps to a line that is not there until the execution. That's wild!

                  Peter

                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                  • pbacotP Offline
                    pbacot
                    last edited by

                    In the example, why push pull up on the face? The whole point seems to be to find Point 'B'. (diagram THAT clause πŸ˜› )

                    Maybe this is beyond my maths. True: the center cut line in the first picture does describe the center of the final board, call it point 'X'. B is a right angle from 'X' but it's a right angle from the board's diagonal, not from the final axis of the board. Still it lies on the edge of the board a distance d/2 from point X?brace - 1.png

                    MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                    • gillesG Offline
                      gilles
                      last edited by

                      Good try but... πŸ’š


                      jeffpush.png

                      " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Pilou's version appears to work...
                        But when I reproduce it there's inaccuracy again πŸ˜•
                        Logic [initially] says that offsetting [pushpulling] a face that is coplanar with the known diagonal by width/2 and then adding the new sloping lines through the points ought to make them along the rail's raking edges ???
                        BUT the offset is perpendicular to the diagonal NOT the rails sides !
                        Hence the errors... very much like all other approximation methods πŸ˜•

                        TIG

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                        • pbacotP Offline
                          pbacot
                          last edited by

                          TIG,

                          To me the problem is that d/2 should be measured perpendicular to the final edge, not the diagonal.

                          Peter

                          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            @pbacot said:

                            TIG,

                            To me the problem is that d/2 should be measured perpendicular to the final edge, not the diagonal.

                            Peter
                            Exactly right - I was adding that to my last post as you posted...
                            The difference between offsetting the diagonal and the sides is the error. πŸ˜’

                            TIG

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                            • andybotA Offline
                              andybot
                              last edited by

                              @pbacot said:

                              Gilles,

                              I Have no idea how you figured that out 😲 One snaps to a line that is not there until the execution. That's wild!

                              Peter

                              Indeed - components interacting with each other during manipulation has always been baffling to me. Some things work and some don't (for example try to move a line in a mirrored component so that it's on the mirror plane - it won't snap to the other side, it'll just keep going past the mirror plane)

                              http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                I have yet another 'drawn' solution...
                                I can't fault it... but then again... you might... πŸ˜’


                                RakingRailDrawnSolution999.PNG


                                RakingRailDrawnSolution999.skp

                                TIG

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                                • bmikeB Offline
                                  bmike
                                  last edited by

                                  @tig said:

                                  I have yet another drawn solution... I can't fault it but then again... πŸ˜’

                                  that appears to work... instead of copying the line up by the thickness of the brace, i +rotated about the center of the original line 180d. then traced over everything to get my shape.

                                  except, when i use the tape, with 0.000000 accuracy, i get 5.995197, instead of what should be 6" in my example.

                                  copying the bottom line up 6" (2x the measurement i used for 1/2w) should yield better results, but then i'd guess that the top or bottom would be off. or the rotate tool is inherently inaccurate.

                                  mike beganyi design + consulting llc

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                                  • gillesG Offline
                                    gilles
                                    last edited by

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    I Have no idea how you figured that out One snaps to a line that is not there until the execution. That's wild!

                                    The line was not here but exist so you can interact with, I use this technic frequently.

                                    " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                    • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                      Rich O Brien Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      A slight variation on TIG's

                                      302 Found

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        @bmike said:

                                        @tig said:

                                        I have yet another drawn solution... I can't fault it but then again... πŸ˜’

                                        that appears to work... instead of copying the line up by the thickness of the brace, i +rotated about the center of the original line 180d. then traced over everything to get my shape.

                                        except, when i use the tape, with 0.000000 accuracy, i get 5.995197, instead of what should be 6" in my example.

                                        copying the bottom line up 6" (2x the measurement i used for 1/2w) should yield better results, but then i'd guess that the top or bottom would be off. or the rotate tool is inherently inaccurate.
                                        Move+Ctrl to copy the bottom long-side lines up to 'T' [as there are two lines, split by the width/2 perpendicular line...] moved up to the top of the right-hand post [T]...

                                        TIG

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          A slight variation on TIG's
                                          http://www.screenr.com/7VC8
                                          Another working solution [I think!]... but it uses a script 😞

                                          TIG

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                                          • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                            Rich O Brien Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            A script that should be a default tool πŸ‘

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