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    • pilouP Offline
      pilou
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      No Problem ๐Ÿ˜‰
      Many Thanks !
      In therory if the there no special element like DC or other news it's better to save in V6 ๐Ÿ˜„
      As like, V6, V7, V8 users can reload it ๐Ÿ˜‰

      Frenchy Pilou
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      • Rich O BrienR Online
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        @Pilou

        Do you have v8 installed? Surely you must... ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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        • sdmitchS Offline
          sdmitch
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          In my plugin, the top groove is not a problem. But the side grooves either cross or diverge when pushpulled due to the faces not being coplanar.

          Grooves.png

          as the image shows.

          Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

          http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
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            Yes but on other computer
            I have this old one (ten years) for test some programs for old configs for some coders ๐Ÿ˜„

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
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              @ EarthMover
              Why your model has no bottom faces?
              That will not solids! So possibilitiy to use boolean operation will be forbidden!

              Frenchy Pilou
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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
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                So the plug is not optimized ๐Ÿ˜‰
                Keep the good work! ๐Ÿ‘
                I have not yet found a super trick with plugs existing ๐Ÿ˜ž
                It's not very easy to select only the section between "elements" for some tricky actions ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                And carreful here you have quadrangular sections, but your plug must work with any polygonal "sections" ! ๐Ÿค“
                So regular PushPull will not work!

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
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                  Curiously the Select Lines by Length By Chris Fulmer don't work with your object ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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                  • TIGT Online
                    TIG Moderator
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                    As sdmitch has found, doing it programmatically is fraught with challenges...


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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      like this ๐Ÿ˜‰

                      Red and Green prism volumes are equal
                      Groove is constant
                      Click for all image
                      Kill_Add.jpg

                      Frenchy Pilou
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                      • TIGT Online
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                        That only works for parallel faced boxes - it won't work if it has non-parallel facets or only some faces are to be grooved... ๐Ÿ˜’

                        TIG

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                        • pilouP Offline
                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          That is the case of the EartMover example asked
                          Just angle change between elements so the prism will be not always the same

                          Frenchy Pilou
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                          • EarthMoverE Offline
                            EarthMover
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                            @unknownuser said:

                            @ EarthMover
                            Why your model has no bottom faces?
                            That will not solids! So possibilitiy to use boolean operation will be forbidden!

                            Sorry Pilou, I forgot I deleted the bottom faces while playing with Profile Builder. Forgot to add them back. If you close the bottom face, you can add the edges back using "Split Sausage".

                            The shape was made by drawing 2 curves, then using BZ Convert to Polyline Divider to regulate the segments. (Or SDMitch's EqSegCurve would work) I think I then used Extrude Edges by Vector in the Z direction and JPP to add volume. (Or you could go Extrude Edges by Offset, JPP) Thus maintaining the segments throughout the process.

                            Not sure why select edges by length doesn't work for you. Quad Face tools, select loops and rings should work fine as it's all quads. Also , with Selection Toys > Selected Quad Face Loops to select the faces in loop. Also easy to drag select all and Selection Toys > Select only edges or faces.

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                            Content Creator at Skapeup

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                            • EarthMoverE Offline
                              EarthMover
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                              @tig said:

                              As sdmitch has found, doing it programmatically is fraught with challenges...

                              I see. The distance changes between the perpendicular offsets. I guess ideally would be to move the offset edges via their verticies, essentially moving four verts and connecting them, instead of four edges and trying to align them. Of course I have no idea if this is possible, just thinking out loud!

                              What if the top and sides were run with separate operations? Or if corners were restricted to only 90 degrees? My example is a bit extreme for most users who would need a tool like this. Things like furniture, buildings and other wood structures are typically square. I do a lot curved step treads, curved knee walls, pool copings, brick banding, arches, etc. However, what I do might be too generalized for what would benefit the masses. I just don't want to put my needs ahead of others.

                              3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
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                              • massimoM Offline
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                                @unknownuser said:

                                What is the "Split Sausage" function

                                http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=386610#p386610

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                                • pilouP Offline
                                  pilou
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                                  Many thanks : An another one that I had missed when i was absent ๐Ÿ‘

                                  Frenchy Pilou
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                                  My Little site :)

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    What is the "Split Sausage" function and where i can find it ?

                                    No problem for push the top and botton face with normal PushPull

                                    Joint Push Pull don't make these vertical faces Pushed
                                    The Smart Puspull make the good internal Push face alas it don't make the erasing!

                                    smart.jpg

                                    Frenchy Pilou
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                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • pilouP Offline
                                      pilou
                                      last edited by

                                      Seems easy ๐Ÿ˜„
                                      Just code the repeat process โ˜€

                                      Push.jpg

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                                      • TIGT Online
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                                        Pilou... you faked the image !
                                        Tinker!


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                                        TIG

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                                        • EarthMoverE Offline
                                          EarthMover
                                          last edited by

                                          I think Pilou is suggesting first and second push both on the Z. The second push requiring another offset first.

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                                          • TIGT Online
                                            TIG Moderator
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                                            @earthmover said:

                                            I think Pilou is suggesting first and second push both on the Z. The second push requiring another offset first.
                                            All PushPulls are made perpendicular to their the face... BUT if the original faces of the edge defining the second groove are non-coplanar then PushPull will be square to each of them NOT align with the 'vertical' sides of the first groove we've made, so that PushPull is blocked by the impending geometry clash; if we were to 'force' it in code then the perpendicular sides of the different grooves would not be guaranteed to align where they meet, and we then need either 'mitered' angles at their junctions, or awkward 'ledges'... ๐Ÿ˜•
                                            I see that Pilou is PushPulling the second groove in the length not the depth, BUT if the base of the groove is not parallel with the top then it won't form a clean hole either ๐Ÿ˜’
                                            It needs more of a JPP solution...

                                            TIG

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