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      dmhmaestro
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      hello everybody!
      im doing this theme and calling it my own, in the matter of, i want to post in here all of the problems i have on my road . im learning by myself and its frustrating sometimes when something isnt going according to plan . so im going to be free and post here about my problems in google sketchup . i hope you all will help me with my big and small problems i will really appreciate it . i think the forum should be mostly about resolving the problems. i love architecture and interior design and i want to improve my GS skills ! sorry for bad english its not my native language πŸ˜„

      so first thing i have on my mind, i make new layer, select it , and then for instance draw a cube on it , then i select invisible and its not invisible

      and the second thing is this white dots on edge, i have this wall and at random degree you can see this small lines or dots on the edge . and i dont want that πŸ˜•

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      • Dave RD Offline
        Dave R
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        So for your first problem, it sounds like you don't understand how layers are meant to be used in SketchUp. I would suggest you go to the online help and do a search for Layers. Read what google has to say about using layers before you do anything else. You can also search here on SCF for discussions about layers. They've been covered at length.

        As to the white dots, I think you need to post at least a screen shot of what you're getting. My guess is its an OpenGL thing but without a sample, it is only a guess.

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          dmhmaestro
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          thanks . i will research more on topic. but in brief, you cant actually make layer invisible ? like in photoshop ? i want to do it because of the speed, when im having alot of components my pc tends to be slow, its not that pc hardware is bad i think .

          and here is the pic , you can see it a bit , its annoying when its many of edges like that

          http://i44.tinypic.com/2jb8j0p.jpg

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          • Dave RD Offline
            Dave R
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            In short, layers are different in SketchUp than in Photoshop. You can turn a layer off to make components or groups invisible. Only components and groups get associated with layers other than Layer 0. Primitives (edges and faces) should be drawn on Layer 0 and should remain there. Go read the help files on the subject of layers before you do any more drawing.

            As to the white dots, it is an OpenGL thing. You can minimize it by making sure you have front faces out (shift to Monochrome face style and make sure you haven't any exposed blue faces. Reverse them if you do.) and then set the back face color to something dark like black.

            If you are drawing and leaving exposed back faces, quit it. That's sloppy work that can bite you later. Work in Monochrome mode so you can stay ahead of the back faces. I set my back face color to a green that I don't normally use in my models. I find it easier to identify reversed faces and holes when they occur .

            You can see the back face color in this example.


            http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2136/5823793967_e24fbb4fac.jpg

            I generally change the back face color to black when I need to create image exports but while I'm drawing, I don't worry about it.

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            • Rich O BrienR Offline
              Rich O Brien Moderator
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              Think of layers as Visibility Toggles.

              Make a group then place it on a new layer. Now you can toggle its visibility.

              If you draw geometry on a layer other than layer 0 you're in for a world of pain.

              The white dots are graphical issues. What card are you running?

              Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                dmhmaestro
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                @dave r said:

                In short, layers are different in SketchUp than in Photoshop. You can turn a layer off to make components or groups invisible. Only components and groups get associated with layers other than Layer 0. Primitives (edges and faces) should be drawn on Layer 0 and should remain there. Go read the help files on the subject of layers before you do any more drawing.

                i have tried that and only the edges dissapear...

                As to the white dots, it is an OpenGL thing. You can minimize it by making sure you have front faces out (shift to Monochrome face style and make sure you haven't any exposed blue faces. Reverse them if you do.) and then set the back face color to something dark like black.

                im going here step by step, i have reversed faces on my group of chair, but only in some elements inside the chair, and where dp o set back face color ?

                If you are drawing and leaving exposed back faces, quit it. That's sloppy work that can bite you later. Work in Monochrome mode so you can stay ahead of the back faces. I set my back face color to a green that I don't normally use in my models. I find it easier to identify reversed faces and holes when they occur .

                You can see the back face color in this example.


                http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2136/5823793967_e24fbb4fac.jpg

                I generally change the back face color to black when I need to create image exports but while I'm drawing, I don't worry about it.

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                  dmhmaestro
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                  i managed to execute the first lecture . yes the components that i gruped was invisible . thanks for that ! and the rest ofcourse πŸ˜„

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                    dmhmaestro
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                    @unknownuser said:

                    Think of layers as Visibility Toggles.

                    The white dots are graphical issues. What card are you running?

                    Graphics Controller
                    Type Integrated
                    Graphics Processor / Vendor Intel GMA 950 Dynamic Video Memory Technology 3.0
                    Max Allocated RAM Size 128.0 MB

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                      dmhmaestro
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                      im doing some brick work on the outside but i dont know how to install this plugin : http://www.smustard.com/script/Greeble2

                      i hope ill not get to boring after a while.

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                        Dave R
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                        There are help files for installing plugins too. In short, download the file, copy it into the Plugins folder (make sure you have admin rights to do that if they are required. Typically they are on Win 7 or Vista. Then reopen sketchUp and the plugin should load.

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                        • Rich O BrienR Offline
                          Rich O Brien Moderator
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                          It's a weak card. Trying adjusting the display style for SketchUp to minimize the effect

                          Windows > Styles

                          Under the edit tab have only Edges checked, Sky and Ground off and Display watermarks off that should help a bit.

                          You can save that style to your default styles too πŸ˜‰

                          To install Greeble

                          You need offset.rb and progressbar.rb

                          Place these in your Plugins folder and restart SketchUp

                          Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                            dmhmaestro
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                            ive managed to install scf powerbar, but i cant install greeble2 , ive downloaded all 3 files and i dont see it in sketchup . i really need those bricks !

                            im doing it by this tutorial but it seems kinda hard , is there any other way ?

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                            • Dave RD Offline
                              Dave R
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                              Did you get the other required files for Greeble 2? Show us a screen shot of your Plugins folder.

                              I think that you might be better off without the SCF PowerBar for the time being. You do need Progressbar.rb and Offset.rb. Did you install those? Don't run before you can walk.

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                                dmhmaestro
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                                http://i41.tinypic.com/2yugbyr.jpg

                                this is my latest house, so you dont think i dont know anything at all πŸ˜„

                                here is my plugin folder

                                http://i44.tinypic.com/23h37ro.jpg

                                what should i do now to install greeble and make those bricks ?

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                                  dmhmaestro
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                                  i have a new problem , sometimes on some elements i get this fragment of the picture in my model , i think this is the line of the picture downstairs in the home cinema, the jpeg i made for the projection wall

                                  http://i43.tinypic.com/6p22br.jpg

                                  the thing is about this new project im planning to go around with camera and make a tour of the house so i will not render, ill primarely film it , but thats thing i need to explore on the end, so the house itself needs to be perfect, as much as i can

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                                  • Dave RD Offline
                                    Dave R
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                                    @dmhmaestro said:

                                    http://i41.tinypic.com/2yugbyr.jpg

                                    this is my latest house, so you dont think i dont know anything at all πŸ˜„

                                    here is my plugin folder

                                    http://i44.tinypic.com/23h37ro.jpg

                                    what should i do now to install greeble and make those bricks ?

                                    I didn't say you don't know anything at all. So from the image of your Plugins directory, the problem is clear. You haven't installed Greeble correctly. It is displayed as a text document instead of an RB file like your other plugins.

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                                      dmhmaestro
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                                      http://i41.tinypic.com/2pzibl2.jpg

                                      ok so managed to install greble . can i now make brick wall ? it throws out all weird shapes i just need bricks relief

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                                        harnstein
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                                        Probably you just didn't insert correct values.

                                        See attached image, everything works fine- if this is what you want to achieve.

                                        Btw, it's always better to attach an images which show the strange, weird, unwanted, mystic results πŸ˜‰

                                        greeble.jpg

                                        still sketchin'

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                                          dmhmaestro
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                                          i want brick wall like this one on 5:45

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                                            harnstein
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                                            You're welcome..

                                            It's always good to give an example of what you want to achieve, would have saved at least 2 minutes of my time πŸ˜‰

                                            So,

                                            • forget greeble in this case
                                            • draw a rectangle in the size you want your brick / tile to be
                                            • select rectange > make component
                                            • copy as often you need to brick to be copied (use move, enter distance, type x(number))
                                            • change appearance acc. to your liking (offset, pushpull, bevel, paint)
                                              (-edit- components are instances, so if you doubleclick one and edit it, all others will be edited simultaneously)

                                            done.

                                            Maybe have a look at hot to use components at all and some basic SU tutorials- this will clear out many questions.
                                            Good work so far, you should have stumbled over components on your way, probably you didn't.

                                            still sketchin'

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