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    • pilouP Offline
      pilou
      last edited by

      Take a look also at Photosculpt πŸ˜‰

      Frenchy Pilou
      Is beautiful that please without concept!
      My Little site :)

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      • Rich O BrienR Online
        Rich O Brien Moderator
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        @ogan

        Isn't there a normal map maker plugin by Chris Fullmer

        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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        • oganocaliO Offline
          oganocali
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          Yes, that is what I had in mind.

          I am thinking I can convert my 3d geometry to a depth map by using a rendering software. For example put a light emitting material on to the surface than immerse it in a dark liquid, render it directly from above, should give me a map that is correlated with the depth of the surface. It is a little complicated but do-able.

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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
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            You can achieve something similar with a white object and black fog in SU. Or projecting a white-to-black image on it from the side. Maybe that's the most accurate - although you need to take care not to have very steep (90 degree) verticals between faces. Can be done but from above, there will be a too sharp difference.

            Gai...

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            • oganocaliO Offline
              oganocali
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              Gaius, you are right, you don't need renderer for that. I kind of like the projection idea best. I have to try and see.

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              • michaliszissiouM Offline
                michaliszissiou
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                Hey, you need a 16 or 32 bit B&W for displacements. Else, expect scaling effect. (commenting Gaieus's idea)
                Once again, the freeware solution is blender. Just unwrap it, (easy in this case) and ask for baking a displacement map.

                Edit: Crazybump!!!
                http://www.crazybump.com/
                The perfect solution. A magical application. Try it. It costs just a little but you have some months to use it as trial.

                This one from the original photo
                gravel_cement_DISP.jpg

                Displ from clay render
                gravel_cement2_DISP.jpg

                AO from clay render
                gravel_cement2_OCC.jpg

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                • oganocaliO Offline
                  oganocali
                  last edited by

                  Actually Gaieus's projection suggestion worked quite nicely.
                  Here is the created texture applied to some random shape. (In my haste I left the SU y axis (the green line) in the texture image). I exaggerated the depth map multiplier to 4.

                  renderx.jpg

                  I am also posting the depth map and the texture as a public donation, no strings attached. Needs extra work for any commercial work.


                  text_crop.jpg


                  depth_crop.jpg

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
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                    Well, the idea came from topics that eventually lead to plugins like this:
                    http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=20635
                    or this:
                    http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=16660

                    This is also how I experimented with this method here:
                    http://www.thearender.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=34261#p34261

                    Gai...

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                    • KrisidiousK Offline
                      Krisidious
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                      CrazyBump is awesome... love it.

                      By: Kristoff Rand
                      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                      • oganocaliO Offline
                        oganocali
                        last edited by

                        I will give crazybump a try.

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          I have PixPlant. CB is said to be better but it's also more expensive (and PP can also make seamlessly tiling images). At my level of rendering abilities, it is probably all the same.

                          Gai...

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                          • KrisidiousK Offline
                            Krisidious
                            last edited by

                            crazy bump is $99/$299 and PixPlant is $195

                            I'd say they're both very proud of their software.

                            By: Kristoff Rand
                            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                            • michaliszissiouM Offline
                              michaliszissiou
                              last edited by

                              Here my tests on crazybump.
                              Rendered in cycles/blender, displacement ~300K (the sphere)
                              I also used specular and AO maps.
                              You can test them, use them, I created a fast seamless texture.

                              http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24090090/testCyclesBumps.jpg


                              text_crop.jpg


                              text_crop_DISP.jpg


                              text_crop_OCC.jpg


                              text_crop_SPEC.jpg

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                              • oganocaliO Offline
                                oganocali
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                                Actually I have been playing with crazy bump today. Real gem. I am amazed at what they can infer from a single picture (not to mention ease of use and speed). Of course the depth map is not accurate but the resulting texture is believable and useable.

                                I marked one problem area,
                                text_crop_DISP.jpg there is a piece of cement that should be sticking out, instead it is given as depression. There is also a dark brown stone that should be sticking out etc. These are minor problems. Ability to remove shadows etc from the diffuse map is great. I think I will eventually purchase CB.

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                                • michaliszissiouM Offline
                                  michaliszissiou
                                  last edited by

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  I think I will eventually purchase CB.

                                  I think so, too.
                                  I didn't notice the shade removal. It eliminates these marked problems.
                                  Here a more difficult test. A coin. A friend posted a scanned image. His scanner has a very narrow angle for lighting. Difficult then.
                                  Another cycles render. Just a low poly cylinder, bumps only, no displacements.
                                  Works for distant camera, complicated scenes.

                                  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24090090/coinss.jpg

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