Are you tired?
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As far as I can see it, no one is 'abusing their position' here.
Solo [and others] when acting just like any other member of the forums, may express any truly held belief.
The fact that someone is a moderator is irrelevant - provided that they nave not used any of his 'super-powers' inappropriately in censoring posts etc...
In the "corner-bar" everyone is equal and entitled to their opinions.
If an opinion is within certain predetermined bounds of decency etc, and it does not involve racism, incitement, bigotry and so on, then it MUST stand: otherwise there is no 'freedom of speech'.
If someone is a religious zealot or a rampant atheist is irrelevant in this matter.
Their opinion is expressed and others make their own opinions of it.
That this position is clearly 'barking mad' to me is in fact irrelevant; I might try to point out 'errors in logic', or 'common-sense' and so on... but at the end, if the contrary opinion holds sway then I must either agree, or retreat and have no further discussion, or if I find the situation intolerable resign from the forums completely.
What kind of world do we live in if someone cannot express an opinion [no matter how stupid] and we seek to censor/censure him ? It is by challenging contrary opinions that we develop, and not by allowing them to flourish unabated... Whatever our opinions might be... -
Fair enough and a lesson for me to just steer clear of the Corner Bar evidently ...
Cheers.
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@idahoj said:
@unknownuser said:
Probably a good thing just to quit religious topics as it seems that religious folk cannot debate their faith and end up whining to administration in pm's when they get offended.
I'm usually pretty easy going about things, but in this case, I've had enough and time to say my peace. I could care less if this post gets me banned. If this is the kind of respect that exists around here, FROM A MODERATOR, no less, then I'll be leaving anyway.
Actually, you, personally, do offend me Solo. You're constant need to vilify and belittle believers is boorish and unnecessary. If there is anyone in this forum who has a hard time with religion or faith as a topic, it's you. Your rhetoric is tiresome, and I consider you just another petty whiner who thinks that their point of view is the only one that counts. Your "statement" about Darwinism in your avatar is immature, offensive and uncalled for. It is only there evidently to continue to offend others who don't share your point of view ...
BTW, the problem with offending people in a forum is that you never know who might be looking to hire you.
Positivity agree.
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Ken, if I said the sky was blue you would disagree with me...
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Solo
Maybe and maybe not. Depending on the type of day. The sky is blue is not subjective. So determining if the sky is blue can be define by facts, the actual frequency of the light.
However, I will tell you one thing I don't do, is posts endless posts, claiming that someone beliefs are absurd, ridiculous, meaninglessness, hokum or etc. Please feel free to add more insults.
I leave everyone to their beliefs. Generally I don't find your post worthy of a reply and I am regretting the short reply that I already made.
Ken
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http://nononsenseselfdefense.com/monkey_dance.htm
I came to that site for different reasons, but I found it to have a lot of interesting articles about human behavioral psychology, and indeed- also what is happening in public forums. One interesting article was about the "Monkey dance". Basically when someone attacks some of your core beliefs(like politics, religion), then our "monkey brain" that controls emotions kicks in and the Neo-cortex part of our brain that controls rational thought, speaking and other higher brain functions is not in charge of our actions. So it really is natural that a discussion like this would evolve to ad hominem attacks. Some just cant differentiate between things that happen in their perceptive reality and what happens in actuality, so an attack on ones beliefs is interpreted as an attack on themselves.
If we can keep our angry monkey at bay, then there is some hope for some civil and interesting discussions in the corner bar
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@speaker said:
If we can keep our angry monkey at bay, then there is some hope for some civil and interesting discussions in the corner bar
I think that's a really great aspiration and the best forum debaters are those who not only recognise when their inner monkey is trying to pull their strings, but are able to get other people to do the same thing - it's no use if your angry monkey is sitting out the discussion and everyone else's is riled up and slinging muck.
It's a hard trick to master since that angry little monkey is always lurking in the cupboard waiting to jump out when you least expect it........and he's damned hard to ignore.
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@unknownuser said:
It's a hard trick to master since that angry little monkey is always lurking in the cupboard waiting to jump out when you least expect it........and he's damned hard to ignore.
And then there are those who are "angry little monkeys" all the time ...
I'm sure Darwin would appreciate the analogy.
Cheers.
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Apropos of previous images presented by 'Alan F.':
Pals, is the case to give up U.S. dollars,
because you will become very TIRED,
reading always on them the sentence ”In God we trust!”…!Is that an U.S.A. motto, just a slogan, a falsehood, or what else?!
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@unknownuser said:
Apropos of previous images presented by 'Alan F.':
Pals, is the case to give up U.S. dollars,
because you will become very TIRED,
reading always on them the sentence ”In God we trust!”…!Is that an U.S.A. motto, just a slogan, a falsehood, or what else?!
Here you go Cornel, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust Read up on it yourself. I don;t think anyone is interested in another debate about God
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Thanks Mike for that link!
I was a bit confused, because in a visit trough U.S.A., I saw written over a cashiers, this text:
“In God we trust; all others pay cash!”
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