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    • Mike LuceyM Offline
      Mike Lucey
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      From looking at the number of views, I imagine many are finding the posts amusing also!

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        I'm with Pete on this one. He and I have had a couple relatively heated debates in this thread but I think we're still as much friends as we were before. I think for the most part for a religious debate it's been quite a civil discussion by all parties.

        Most of your points, Rich, are well taken though. There are a number of productive SketchUp related discussions to be had, but sometimes you just have to take a break from talking shop for awhile and have a good ol' pub conversation at the corner bar (while your stuff renders).

        At any rate the thread seems to be dying of old age at this point anyhow, so no need to kill it πŸ˜‰

        -Brodie

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        • StinkieS Offline
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          Time for drinks then?

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          • HieruH Offline
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            @unknownuser said:

            Time for drinks then?

            Sounds like a good plan to me πŸ˜„

            I'd be happy to continue the discussion if I thought it was going anywhere, but we've driven around the same block a few times already..............so it's probably as good a time as any to call it a day and restore our toolbar positions.

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              edit: eh, nevermind. Have another drink...

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              • Mike LuceyM Offline
                Mike Lucey
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                @hieru said:

                @unknownuser said:

                Time for drinks then?

                Sounds like a good plan to me πŸ˜„

                I'd be happy to continue the discussion if I thought it was going anywhere, but we've driven around the same block a few times already..............so it's probably as good a time as any to call it a day and restore our toolbar positions.

                πŸ˜† David, this question is totally unresolvable without some form of faith belief! But at the same time there are bits an pieces of information surfacing that are of interest.

                However both Pete and Brodie are showing that they know how debates are handled in a 'Corner Bar', they may be in at opposite ends of the argument but they will defend each other's right to debate as I will. Proper order! The only thing I would draw the line on is outright personal insults.

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                • Mike LuceyM Offline
                  Mike Lucey
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                  @unknownuser said:

                  At any rate the thread seems to be dying of old age at this point anyhow, so no need to kill it πŸ˜‰

                  -Brodie

                  I have another one in mind that has been at the back of my mind for quite some time. Its sort of related to many of the current 'hot' topic ongoing here. I'll bounce it off and see where it goes.

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                  • Mike LuceyM Offline
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                    Done!
                    Should the State have the power to license child births?
                    http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=179&t=42854

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                      It seems like this debate has become the ultimate source of renewable energy and could easily replace petroleum, coal and other forms of stored solar/nuclear energy. The only down side is that it is all heat and no light, but free energy is free energy and the fact it does not die proves it is renewable. I think, like Elvis, God has left the building. Unfortunately so has Christoper Hutchins (or is it Hitchens?).

                      Its well known that architects are believers because both the phrases "god is in the details" and "The devil is in the details" originated with Architects.

                      Yeah, I know I capitalized Architects and not god. However, it is because when I
                      was small and someone referred to the "Creator," I thought they were talking about an architect.

                      --Roger

                      http://www.azcreative.com

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                      • elmerE Offline
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                        Very good Roger πŸ˜‰
                        May be a new question, did god creates humour?

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                          @roger said:

                          It seems like this debate has become the ultimate source of renewable energy and could easily replace petroleum, coal and other forms of stored solar/nuclear energy. The only down side is that it is all heat and no light, but free energy is free energy and the fact it does not die proves it is renewable. I think, like Elvis, God has left the building. Unfortunately so has Christoper Hutchins (or is it Hitchens?).

                          Its well known that architects are believers because both the phrases "god is in the details" and "The devil is in the details" originated with Architects.

                          Yeah, I know I capitalized Architects and not god. However, it is because when I
                          was small and someone referred to the "Creator," I thought they were talking about an architect.

                          --Roger

                          πŸ˜‰

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                          • Mike LuceyM Offline
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                            @elmer said:

                            Very good Roger πŸ˜‰
                            May be a new question, did god creates humour?

                            Good question! I recently read that it was thought only humans possessed the ability for humour but it seems this is not that case as chimps and dolphins also some other animals that I can't now remember do also. I often think that my dog shows some form of humour when he tries the get me to play with him!

                            Funny thing humour! It has kept me going in dark times!

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                              @roger said:

                              It seems like this debate has become the ultimate source of renewable energy and could easily replace petroleum, coal and other forms of stored solar/nuclear energy. The only down side is that it is all heat and no light, but free energy is free energy and the fact it does not die proves it is renewable. I think, like Elvis, God has left the building. Unfortunately so has Christoper Hutchins (or is it Hitchens?).

                              Its well known that architects are believers because both the phrases "god is in the details" and "The devil is in the details" originated with Architects.

                              Yeah, I know I capitalized Architects and not god. However, it is because when I
                              was small and someone referred to the "Creator," I thought they were talking about an architect.

                              --Roger

                              They must be Godlike, they even have songs written about them ...

                              (from a world famous - 😐 - Belgium band)

                              (How do I embed a video ? tried several things but must of missed something)

                              Flapsy

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                                @mike lucey said:

                                @elmer said:

                                Very good Roger πŸ˜‰
                                May be a new question, did god creates humour?

                                Good question! I recently read that it was thought only humans possessed the ability for humour but it seems this is not that case as chimps and dolphins also some other animals that I can't now remember do also. I often think that my dog shows some form of humour when he tries the get me to play with him!

                                Funny thing humour! It has kept me going in dark times!

                                The other day my dog comes in and says, "Descartes walks into a bar in France and the bartender asks if he would like a Bud Lite, Descartes says, "I think not" and poof Descartes disappeared."

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                                  cornel
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                                  @elmer said:

                                  May be a new question, did god creates humour?

                                  @mike lucey said:

                                  Good question! I recently read that it was thought only humans possessed the ability for humour but it seems this is not that case as chimps and dolphins also some other animals that I can't now remember do also. I often think that my dog shows some form of humour when he tries the get me to play with him!
                                  Funny thing humour! It has kept me going in dark times!

                                  God didn't create humour, but created JOY, GLADNESS, etc.

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                                  • michaliszissiouM Offline
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                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    God didn't create humour, but created JOY, GLADNESS, etc.

                                    So he didn't create humor. At least there is something god didn't create.
                                    What is this? Humor.
                                    How do you know all these cornel?

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                                    • pbacotP Offline
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                                      Humour may be the work of the Devil. Mark Twain might agree.

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                                        cornel
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                                        @michaliszissiou said:

                                        So he didn't create humor. At least there is something god didn't create.
                                        What is this? Humor.
                                        How do you know all these cornel?

                                        God is not playful, comic, ironic, etc.
                                        In addition, He gives us the full and eternal joy, not an occasional one..., not just a little and temporary ...

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                                        • Mike LuceyM Offline
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                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          God is not playful, comic, ironic, etc.
                                          In addition, He gives us the full and eternal joy, not an occasional one..., not just a little and temporary ...

                                          Ahhhh, come on Cornel! You must be joking! If, according to you, God created all things, he DID create humour! The jedeo-christian god of the Bible claims to have created man (Adam) in his own likeness!

                                          Nearly all humans have some sense of humour .... but again, I often wonder about you at times πŸ˜‰ Then again, I have a feeling you are actually pulling our leg a lot of the time πŸ˜„

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                                          • Mike LuceyM Offline
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                                            Watched an interesting TV interview of Richard Branson, an agnostic. During the interview he quoted Gandhi a number of times. Out of curiosity I did a quick search and found Gandhi's Views On God
                                            http://www.gandhi-manibhavan.org/gandhiphilosophy/philosophy_god_god.htm Well worth the read.

                                            Richard Branson also mentioned that he was just back from a conference of The Elders, independent global leaders working together for peace and human rights. He also joked that if he was around Bishop Desmond Tuto for much longer he feels he might be converted and the thing he admires most about Desmond Tutu is his great sense of humor!

                                            The Elders is also well worth checking out, http://www.theelders.org/

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