Did a God or Gods create the universe? EDITED
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I know, I should have known better - I've had plenty of discussions like this and after a while it feel like you are debating with the same person over and over.
Anyway I'll have one last go: I just need to take my time and consider how to convey my thoughts in an unambiguous way that cannot be twisted.
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I'm just wondering if religious/non religious debate is needed on the forum?
The past month has seen a few threads devolve into flinging shit at one another. Not to sound like a jerk but is SCF really a place for such topics? I prefer to see gallery submissions, problems solved etc than a debate which has raged for 100's of years already.
I like a good discussion but when you see long standing pillars of the community trod on each others toes numerous times a day it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I realise people opinions are different but to see this thread dominate for so long and no real value to be gotten out of it it begs the question...
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@unknownuser said:
The past month has seen a few threads devolve into flinging shit at one another. Not to sound like a jerk but is SCF really a place for such topics? I prefer to see gallery submissions, problems solved etc than a debate which has raged for 100's of years already.
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@unknownuser said:
I'm just wondering if religious/non religious debate is needed on the forum?
Well, I have learnt to press that "mark topics read" link already.
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This thread has gone on for some 60+ pages, and in my mind, only really really important threads need to go on that long. . .like funny videos of talking dogs, and people driving their cars into outhouses. You know. . that sort of thing.
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It's easy to ignore these threads but as a member I prefer to see energy invested elsewhere. As a topic I fail to see who has benefited of late.
I hate to see topics locked or removed as there should be no need. Here's hoping that it will sink soon so we can get back massaging egos.
I'd love to know what others are modeling of late. There's a great challenge being voted on that needs your attention. TIG's latest Slicer plugin is epic. Thomthom's looking for cookies before he'll finish Bezier Surface. Steve had his model stolen. Dave turned 51. Mike installed Lion on his nicotine powered Mac.
CatchUp is out next week with some nice surprises
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From looking at the number of views, I imagine many are finding the posts amusing also!
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I'm with Pete on this one. He and I have had a couple relatively heated debates in this thread but I think we're still as much friends as we were before. I think for the most part for a religious debate it's been quite a civil discussion by all parties.
Most of your points, Rich, are well taken though. There are a number of productive SketchUp related discussions to be had, but sometimes you just have to take a break from talking shop for awhile and have a good ol' pub conversation at the corner bar (while your stuff renders).
At any rate the thread seems to be dying of old age at this point anyhow, so no need to kill it
-Brodie
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Time for drinks then?
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@unknownuser said:
Time for drinks then?
Sounds like a good plan to me
I'd be happy to continue the discussion if I thought it was going anywhere, but we've driven around the same block a few times already..............so it's probably as good a time as any to call it a day and restore our toolbar positions.
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edit: eh, nevermind. Have another drink...
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@hieru said:
@unknownuser said:
Time for drinks then?
Sounds like a good plan to me
I'd be happy to continue the discussion if I thought it was going anywhere, but we've driven around the same block a few times already..............so it's probably as good a time as any to call it a day and restore our toolbar positions.
David, this question is totally unresolvable without some form of faith belief! But at the same time there are bits an pieces of information surfacing that are of interest.
However both Pete and Brodie are showing that they know how debates are handled in a 'Corner Bar', they may be in at opposite ends of the argument but they will defend each other's right to debate as I will. Proper order! The only thing I would draw the line on is outright personal insults.
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@unknownuser said:
At any rate the thread seems to be dying of old age at this point anyhow, so no need to kill it
-Brodie
I have another one in mind that has been at the back of my mind for quite some time. Its sort of related to many of the current 'hot' topic ongoing here. I'll bounce it off and see where it goes.
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Done!
Should the State have the power to license child births?
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It seems like this debate has become the ultimate source of renewable energy and could easily replace petroleum, coal and other forms of stored solar/nuclear energy. The only down side is that it is all heat and no light, but free energy is free energy and the fact it does not die proves it is renewable. I think, like Elvis, God has left the building. Unfortunately so has Christoper Hutchins (or is it Hitchens?).
Its well known that architects are believers because both the phrases "god is in the details" and "The devil is in the details" originated with Architects.
Yeah, I know I capitalized Architects and not god. However, it is because when I
was small and someone referred to the "Creator," I thought they were talking about an architect.--Roger
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Very good Roger
May be a new question, did god creates humour? -
@roger said:
It seems like this debate has become the ultimate source of renewable energy and could easily replace petroleum, coal and other forms of stored solar/nuclear energy. The only down side is that it is all heat and no light, but free energy is free energy and the fact it does not die proves it is renewable. I think, like Elvis, God has left the building. Unfortunately so has Christoper Hutchins (or is it Hitchens?).
Its well known that architects are believers because both the phrases "god is in the details" and "The devil is in the details" originated with Architects.
Yeah, I know I capitalized Architects and not god. However, it is because when I
was small and someone referred to the "Creator," I thought they were talking about an architect.--Roger
[flash=500,350:1xwop91m]http://www.youtube.com/v/kRH3zcHEN5w?version=3&hl=cs_CZ&[/flash:1xwop91m]
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@elmer said:
Very good Roger
May be a new question, did god creates humour?Good question! I recently read that it was thought only humans possessed the ability for humour but it seems this is not that case as chimps and dolphins also some other animals that I can't now remember do also. I often think that my dog shows some form of humour when he tries the get me to play with him!
Funny thing humour! It has kept me going in dark times!
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@roger said:
It seems like this debate has become the ultimate source of renewable energy and could easily replace petroleum, coal and other forms of stored solar/nuclear energy. The only down side is that it is all heat and no light, but free energy is free energy and the fact it does not die proves it is renewable. I think, like Elvis, God has left the building. Unfortunately so has Christoper Hutchins (or is it Hitchens?).
Its well known that architects are believers because both the phrases "god is in the details" and "The devil is in the details" originated with Architects.
Yeah, I know I capitalized Architects and not god. However, it is because when I
was small and someone referred to the "Creator," I thought they were talking about an architect.--Roger
They must be Godlike, they even have songs written about them ...
(from a world famous - - Belgium band)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCVQ654CiKM
(How do I embed a video ? tried several things but must of missed something)
Flapsy
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@mike lucey said:
@elmer said:
Very good Roger
May be a new question, did god creates humour?Good question! I recently read that it was thought only humans possessed the ability for humour but it seems this is not that case as chimps and dolphins also some other animals that I can't now remember do also. I often think that my dog shows some form of humour when he tries the get me to play with him!
Funny thing humour! It has kept me going in dark times!
The other day my dog comes in and says, "Descartes walks into a bar in France and the bartender asks if he would like a Bud Lite, Descartes says, "I think not" and poof Descartes disappeared."
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