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    • brodieB Offline
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      Good stuff 😄 Who was the balding guy at the end, he looks familiar. Was he Tim's (Simon Pegg's) boss in Spaced?

      -Brodie

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        That's Bill Bailey. I've not seen 'Spaced', though. I'll check it out.

        If you've not seen 'Black Books', I totally recommend it. I laughed tears watching it.

        Er, [/ot]. 😉

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        • brodieB Offline
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          Spaced is a must watch in my book. A sort of cult show here in the states, I'm not sure how popular it ever was over seas. It was my intro to Simon Pegg and probably my favorite thing he's in (although Shawn of the Dead is pretty great as well and also has Nick Frost as most of Pegg's movies seem to). I'm not a big british comedy fan, either but this one has so many great quotes and it's only like 3 seasons I think. I believe it's on Netflix instant watch last I checked.

          I've never heard of Black Books. I'll check it out.

          Bailey, is indeed Pegg's boss, Bilbo Bagshot (hahaha).

          -Brodie

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          • StinkieS Offline
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            @unknownuser said:

            I'm not sure how popular it ever was over seas.

            No idea either, I hadn't even heard of it until now.

            I've already found a retailer that sells the dvd's. Thanks for the tip. 💚

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              • brodieB Offline
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                Let me know what you think of it. 😄 My favorite characters are probably Brian and, although he's only in a couple episodes Tyres the bicycle messenger is great.

                -Brodie

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                  cornel
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                  @ Alan F. „Carbon-14” is not a method valid for any period, because the Earth has ‘suffered’ essential changes that have affected inclusive ‘your carbon’...!

                  @ ‘Solo’ Christianity is NOT “all about fear”. Voila, for example, apostle Paul words:
                  “I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” (Romans 8:38-39)

                  @ Jeff H. You wrote: "So am I going to hell or not?"
                  The Hell was “created for Satan and his angels”, not for humans being, but people who have served Satan, will follow him there. The escape is for those who repent and trust in Jesus Christ, the Redeemer / the Savior!

                  @ ALL: Regarding the Laws of Logic, carefully study this passage (John 1:1-5):
                  “[In the beginning () was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the LIGHT OF MEN. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it. ]”
                  The Word of God has two types: ‘written Word’ (the Bible), plus ‘incarnate Word’ (Lord Jesus Christ), and both ‘types’ are TRUE (see John 17:17)
                  I think you notice whwre is lurking LOGICAL!!!
                  (
                  ) “The beginning” is not the start point of Eternity, but ‘Alpha’ point (start point of ‘Time’ , that will finish at ‘Omega’ point…)

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                  • Alan FraserA Offline
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                    C-14 radiodating is perfectly valid; it's simply that fraudulent Creationists deliberately misuse it. I could go into precisely how they misuse it (like trying to date living organisms or coal) in exquisite detail, but as you'd totally ignore everything I'd written I won't bother.

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                      cornel
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                      @ 'Alan F’. Do not exagerate! I did not 'TOTALLY" dismiss what you have argued. Read carefully each of my sentence, until now…!

                      Re. Method C-14, for example, this is partially valid, only for the last configuration of the Earth, because it had substantial changes in both the internal configuration and in the atmosphere (as protective ‘envelope’) All rradiations were also changed, at least a few times..., but Evolutionists do not take account of such 'aspects'...

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                        @cornel said:

                        @ Jeff H. You wrote: "So am I going to hell or not?"
                        The Hell was “created for Satan and his angels”, not for humans being, but people who have served Satan, will follow him there. The escape is for those who repent and trust in Jesus Christ, the Redeemer / the Savior!

                        huh? you didn't answer my question. am I going to hell or not?

                        and I guess if I am, that means I serve satan?

                        that's a weird one.. i mean I definitely don't believe in god so likewise for satan.. but in your head, I don't believe in god therefore I worship satan? that's really the way it works for you (or god)?

                        dotdotdot

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                          cornel
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                          @ Solo. You wonder: “What exactly is logic? Do animals have logic?
                          Are babies born with logic? Is logic a result of human consciousness?”

                          Laws of Logic are from God, because they reflect God’s ‘atributes’.
                          Common man is not logical because he/she is bias, subjective, often called evil good and good evil, and so on...
                          Animals are not logical... “Logic”, involves spirit, and animals have no it... They have a developped intuition, with certain specific...
                          Human babies are born with a pale (‘dull’) logic. For example they have imprinted on their consciousness the eternal existence of them...

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                            cornel
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                            @ ’Jeff H’. Your question was: „Am I going to hell or not?”

                            Christ Jesus, the Lord, said: “He who obey My word and believes in Him (in God) who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into true life.”
                            If you do not meet His requirement, you will go to hell! It is your choice...

                            There is no a 3rd way...!

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                              I'd like to express my thanks to you Cornel for restoring my faith.
                              Your erudite arguments, your deft use of the scriptures and your clear and fulsome explanations have brought me to a new level of understanding.
                              I had begun to doubt, I was falling by the wayside, Satan was tempting more and more every day, but through you I have once again been brought into the light and I see clearly now, more than ever before.
                              So thank you once again for making me truly believe in the importance of asylums and the selfless people who work in them.

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                                @unknownuser said:

                                @ ’Jeff H’. Your question was: „Am I going to hell or not?”

                                Christ Jesus, the Lord, said: “He who obey My word and believes in Him (in God) who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into true life.”
                                If you do not meet His requirement, you will go to hell! It is your choice...

                                There is no a 3rd way...!

                                I don't think this is IF AND ONLY IF statement...and also IMO a person is his own judge...making the mix of hell and paradise in his soul...I also believe that God is the source of this ballast of self judgment, for both atheist and theist. Science can not explain it as far as I know. 💭 Maybe human soul is the universe of its own, of unlimited complexity. It contains all the worlds, seen and unseen. If it is of unlimited complexity, than it has to be connected to the wholeness of the Universe in some part. The fact is that if you look in macro cosmos you see no end...also if you look in micro cosmos. WORLD HAS OPEN ENDS. It has no beginning, and no end. Having that in mind it is not important where on that eternal scale is human soul. It could be anywhere. When we know that time is not linear, than we could say that God is creating World even now, and also He is doing this trough us.
                                Sorry for being subjective 😄

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                                  @ ’Box’. Many blessings to you!
                                  “Cast all your anxiety on Him because He cares for you. Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith…” (1 Peter 5:7-9)… and the reward will be great!

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                                    cornel
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                                    ‘srx’ wrote: “I don't think this is IF AND ONLY IF statement...”

                                    “He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me, scatters.”, Jesus Christ said...

                                    “I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”, Jesus Christ also said...
                                    (Conclusion need not!)

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                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      “My country is the world and my religion is to do good.” — Thomas Paine

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                                        cornel
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                                        @ ’Solo’. “He who is not with Me is against Me”, only God can say, because He is omniscient...
                                        When a person/a group uses such a formulation, it is a “scary” monster.
                                        Communists used it, Antichrist will use it...

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                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          @ 'Alan F’. Do not exagerate! I did not 'TOTALLY" dismiss what you have argued. Read carefully each of my sentence, until now…!

                                          I'm not exaggerating...and you do dismiss everything that doesn't fit in with your utterly deluded fantasies.
                                          Radiations (whatever you mean by that) don't change. It's a fundamental principle of physics. Radioactive decay is totally impervious to any change in conditions short of the extremes found in the centre of some stars.

                                          As for the rest of what you've written, it makes no sense at all. What different configurations of the earth? Radiocarbon dating can only work as far back as 60,000 years; and there is absolutely no evidence for either the earth itself being reconfigured during that time...or the atmosphere. This isn't guesswork; paleo atmospheres have been preserved in the air pockets trapped in the ice cores taken from the polar caps. Our atmosphere has had precisely the same ratio of carbon-14 to carbon-12 for at least the last 100,000 years. Why do you persist in preferring fantasy over hard facts.

                                          And while we are at it, what's an Evolutionist when he's at home? Is that something like a Gravityist? The theories of Gravity and Evolution merely explain the processes. The processes themselves are observable fact and are quite indifferent to whether you accept the theories or not.

                                          If it wasn't for the fact of your constant attempts to spread your deluded philosophy on the Net, you'd be a pitiable figure.

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                                            cornel
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                                            Rather he was under the influence of alcohol, or else...
                                            Maybe he wanted to imitate a communist leader...
                                            Ask him!

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