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    [Plugin] K2WS_Tools a joint tool set for SU

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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      The \ OR the / work on a PC - but a MAC wants a / 😒

      TIG

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      • Dave RD Offline
        Dave R
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        Keith, I see what you're doing, I think. As I said, I used the Loose Tenon tool. It isn't logical to me to have to use different tools on opposite ends of the rail. It does work that way, though. I'm not real keen on having to hide the second leg before cutting that mortise in the end of the rail but I couldn't select the top edge of the rail without doing so.

        Also, while I've got you, could things like the dominoes and loose tenons be inserted as instances of the same component? You can see in the attached screen grab what happen in a cut list.
        KK Tools.png

        It's getting there, though.

        Etaoin Shrdlu

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        • K Offline
          ktkoh
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          Dave: I know you might need to hide the other component some times it seems to depend on what view you are looking at. You can do this without leaving the tool with a right click on the component and select hide the tool should stay active.

          At this time I don't know of a way to add copies of an component in a plugin. If I find a way to do this I can update later. That was why when I first sent you this it only added one component and it seemed you felt the joint was not complete.

          Mac users: I replaced the \ with / so the files should work on your systems.

          I did find that the M&T Joint tool still had require pointin to my dir so I also changed that. The zip file has been revised.

          Keith

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            alex_t
            last edited by

            Perfect plugin! Thank you!

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            • nanolinN Offline
              nanolin
              last edited by

              Hello.
              Anyone who uses this plugin could tell me how the board is at 45?
              (Spline Joint)

              Make a video for all functions would be best.

              thanks

              sorry my English is google translator

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                eneu3
                last edited by

                Thanks for the really nice plug-in. I use it often. It saves me a lot of time.

                I just downloaded Sketchup 2013 on both my Mac and PC. The tool still works just fine on the Mac, but I've run into an issue on the PC. When making a M/T joint, for instance, it won't save any edits to the parameters. And it won't do anything if I click "Save". If I click "Cancel", at least it lets me put in the mortise depth parameter, but then it won't do anything after that.

                Like I said, no issue on the Mac!

                Wonder!

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
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                  What version is your OS? Perhaps you need to set the permissions for the Plugins folder for SU2013 to allow access.

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                    emlyn80
                    last edited by

                    I can't get the tools to work. I see them in the tool menu but nothing happens. I am using the free version of SU2013, is that the problem?
                    Thanks

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                      eneu3
                      last edited by

                      Dave, you were correct about the permission issue.

                      After I posted my note, I did some digging around on the internet and saw that permissions can be a problem for some of the plugins. I could see the file where the preferences were being kept could not get updated.

                      I recently got a new laptop and it has Windows 7 installed. So I did some more web surfing and figured out how to get the permissions set properly. Basically, I had to make myself the owner of the CREATOR OWNER group.

                      All works well now!

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
                        last edited by

                        Ed, thanks for letting us know. Maybe that will help someone else down the road.

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                          studeag
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                          I've just upgrade to 2013 and it does not work, is there a solution, I've try a lot of things without success

                          Alain

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Have you double-checked the security permissions issues and running as administrator etc, as outlined earlier?

                            Then...
                            Exactly 'how' is it not working ?

                            Not installing at all?
                            Not installing properly?
                            Not loading?
                            Not making menu entries?
                            No doing what you expect?
                            Generating error message dialogs?
                            Generating error messages in the Ruby Console?
                            Causing bugsplats/crashes?

                            From this quick list you can see that there is considerably more information you could offer us, which might then help us to help you... 😒

                            TIG

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                              studeag
                              last edited by

                              I missed the security permission, lowered it and the program now works.

                              Thank you very much

                              Alain

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                                ettengerg
                                last edited by

                                I am not able to get the tool to load in SU 2013 pro. The menu shows up but none of the joint tools work. I have tried to load thru window preferences renaming from zip to RBZ but still does not work? 😞 Any help would be appreciated.

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                                • K Offline
                                  ktkoh
                                  last edited by

                                  I am using SU2013 and I downloaded the K2Tools file from the Ruby Depot and changed the .zip extension to .rbz and installed it as a extension from the preferences menu and the tools worked for me.

                                  As stated above file permissions are the first thing to check when a plugin fails to do anything.

                                  Keith

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                                    ettengerg
                                    last edited by

                                    I changed permissions on the folder and it now works. Thanks

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                                      eneu3
                                      last edited by

                                      Anyone having problems loading K2WS_Tools with Sketchup 2014? I keep getting an error message on my Mac:

                                      "Error Loading File loadK2WS_Tools.rb
                                      Error: #<LoadError: cannot load such file -- K2WS_Tools\K2_ToolsLoader.rb>

                                      I've downloaded the .zip file twice tonight from the SketchUCation site. No luck either time. I used the load extensions option from SketchUps preferences. It told me each time the load was successful, but when I re-open SketchUp I get the error message.

                                      Any help would be appreciated. This is a great set of tools!!

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                                      • TIGT Offline
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                                        @Ed

                                        The error is self-explanatory !
                                        The ZIP file contains a single .rb file and a subfolder of many helper files.
                                        The ZIP's contents need extracting into your Plugins folder [if you completed your User profile with OS & Version we might be able to advise better on where that is, and if security permissions need resetting to FULL etc - see earlier posts in this thread about that].
                                        The .rb file and the subfolder need to end up in the Plugins folder with the same relationship intact as they have in the ZIP itself.
                                        When the file loadK2WS_Tools.rb loads it does a require [like 'load'] on a file in the subfolder
                                        K2WS_Tools\K2_ToolsLoader.rb
                                        If it's missing you get the Error: #<LoadError: cannot load such file !
                                        If successful that will load other files etc until the toolset is assembled for use...
                                        But when it fails it stops, so nothing gets finished !

                                        If you have NOT got the subfolder with its contents intact inside Plugins then add it.
                                        If you have managed to put the contents of the subfolder directly into Plugins then you need to tidy things up and remove them.
                                        You ought to know that RBZ archives can be AutoInstalled using Preferences > Extensions > Install... button, you can add .rbz onto the end of a ZIP file's name to achieve this too as an RBZ is just a renamed ZIP file...
                                        SketchUcation Plugin Store toolset also has submenu item to AutoInstall Archives - RBZ & ZIP formats are supported.

                                        TIG

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                                          eneu3
                                          last edited by

                                          Thanks for the feedback, TIG.

                                          The first two times I attempted to install K2WS I used the method of changing the .zip extension to .rbz. I got the file error. Tonight, I manually un-zipped the file and put the folder K2WS_Tools and the loadK2WS_Tools.rb file directly into my Plug-Ins folder.

                                          I verified all files and folders retained the same order as in the .zip file, just as you indicated. Attached is a jpg file showing the content and structure of my Plug-In folder.

                                          I still get the same load error.

                                          I'm running a Mac with OSX 10.7.5. Permissions for Plug-In folder and all contained files and folders is write & read.


                                          Plug-In file structure and content

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            I have finally [re]seen the issue 💭

                                            The error says the initial loader rb can't find:
                                            K2WS_Tools\K2_ToolsLoader.rb
                                            Because you are on a MAC that's not a valid file path.
                                            It must be K2WS_Tools/K2_ToolsLoader.rb to suit MAC AND PCs.
                                            The back-slash \ will scrape through on most PCs, but fail on MACs.
                                            Whereas the forward-slash / will work OK on PCs and MACs.

                                            To fix this open the file loadK2WS_Tools.rb with TextWrangler or a similar plain-text editor...
                                            See here... http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=352600#p352600
                                            As reported \ in the require path needs to be a / for MAC compatibility...
                                            require 'K2WS_Tools\K2_ToolsLoader.rb'
                                            becomes
                                            require 'K2WS_Tools/K2_ToolsLoader.rb'
                                            Capture.PNG

                                            BUT oddly if you get the latest ZIP off the forum and extract the files loadK2WS_Tools.rb is correctly formed with the /
                                            Presumably these and a few other issues were reworked by the author after the initial reports/testing in 2011!!
                                            So the question arises where did you get the older incorrect version from ?

                                            Get the latest ZIP from the first post - that is already correctly configured.
                                            Extract its contents and convince yourself about the lack of a \ in the 'require'...
                                            Make sure ALL of the files and subfolder equivalents in the extracted set are manually removed from your users Plugins folder [also check the other Plugins folder in the HD path is similarly emptied too !]
                                            Rename the ZIP with .rbz at the end and use the AutoInstall feature under Preferences > Extensions...
                                            To double check, open the loadK2WS_Tools.rb and ensure the required path is still with / not \

                                            If it still fails look for other Plugins folders that might be loading an older incorrectly written version ???

                                            For the avoidance of doubt here's a latest working RBZ version too !
                                            You can install that directly...


                                            K2WS_Tools.rbz

                                            TIG

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