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    • A Offline
      Aerilius
      last edited by

      As far as I understood you want to use commands instead of shortcuts?

      I myself had once such an idea, too, but more in the sense of an intuitive searchbox (that is not limited to specific commands but also synonyms etc.).

      However ruby does not give us enough access to tools of other plugins, so in the best case I could support all native tools, but it would require manual editing to add more tools. A proof-of-concept is here, but it's not ready to use. First I have to figure out some issues (or wait until the next SU version) to decide whether it's at all possible to finish the project.

      http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=73349

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      • EarthMoverE Offline
        EarthMover
        last edited by

        In my opinion, it's kind of like taking the motor out of a car and pulling it with a horse....but I totally understand how hard it is to reverse old habits. As in preferring keyboard shortcuts for navigation instead of the mouse.

        The closest thing to a command line that is built in, is the Ruby Console. You can call any script from there, but I don't believe you can activate native tools. To find out what command calls a given script, open it with Notepad and look for the line, model.start_operation - followed by parenthesis and quotes. Within the quotes is the command needed to call the script from the Console. It requires typing the full name without deviation. Shortcuts become faster as you need only push a single letter.

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        • A Offline
          Aerilius
          last edited by

          You could for example add an empty text file with *.rb extension into the Plugins folder (e.g. "my_commands.rb"), where you insert your preferred commands to abbreviate the original ruby commands:

          def p
            Sketchup.send_action("pushpull;")
          end
          

          or

          def bend
            Sketchup.active_model.select_tool Clf_shape_bender.new
          end
          

          with commands from this list or commands that you find inside other plugins (as EarthMover wrote). Then you can use your commands on the ruby console.

          @earthmover said:

          model.start_operation [...] Within the quotes is the command needed to call the script from the Console.
          I could be wrong but I think start_operation just contains the name how it is displayed in the undo/redo stack, but it's not an executable command. The command can often be found by searching for "add_item", it's in the curly brackets after that.

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          • Dan RathbunD Offline
            Dan Rathbun
            last edited by

            @aerilius said:

            You could for example add an empty text file with *.rb extension into the Plugins folder (e.g. "my_commands.rb"), where you insert your preferred commands to abbreviate the original ruby commands:

            def p
            >   Sketchup.send_action("pushpull;")
            > end
            

            That example overrides the global method p(), and can break plugins that use it.
            (ALWAYS check the methods in module Kernel, and class Object, before you choose a method name, BUT ....
            PLEASE... don't define methods in the global ObjectSpace... they propagate into all classes and modules.)

            @aerilius said:

            with commands from this list or commands that you find inside other plugins (as EarthMover wrote). Then you can use your commands on the ruby console.

            @earthmover said:

            model.start_operation [...] Within the quotes is the command needed to call the script from the Console.
            I could be wrong but I think start_operation just contains the name how it is displayed in the undo/redo stack, but it's not an executable command. The command can often be found by searching for "add_item", it's in the curly brackets after that.

            Yes correct, on the start_operation() text, it's only menu text, and a coincidence (or certain author's quirk,) that it's the same as a command.

            I'm not here much anymore.

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              I fail to see how typing in letters+enter at the Ruby Console [or some other command-line GU Interface] is an improvement of a simple shortcut? Even with modifier keys it's little more than a keystroke away...
              Pressing L is quicker that getting focus on the window by picking it and typing L+enter ???
              And a lot faster that typing 'Line' or 'linetool' or say 'Q.l'/'Q.line' if you defined a 'Q' short-named module to protect things etc 😒
              I recommend you learn to use shortcuts... which can be set very similar to ACAD, but just avoid the need for a closing space or return keystroke - SUp's L v. L+space or L+enter for ACAD OR key+modifier[s] v. letter+letter+space etc for lesser used tools... 😕

              TIG

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              • J Offline
                Jim
                last edited by

                @tig said:

                I fail to see how typing in letters+enter at the Ruby Console [or some other command-line GU Interface] is an improvement of a simple shortcut?

                It isn't an improvement over a shortcut, but you can't have a shortcut for every command you use (or at least it doesn't work for me workflow.) Aerilius' LaunchUp is a great concept. After playing with it, I think it can fill a niche somewhere between a shortcut (most efficient) and a menu (least efficient) for efficiently selecting commands; particularly for less frequently used commands, or commands that conflict with already taken shortcuts.

                Hi

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  I got a concept code snippet where I subclass the UI, Sketchup::Menu and Sketchup::Toolbar class - intercepting the UI elements so I get all the data and blocks/procs. It allows me to traverse the whole menu tree, all ruby toolbars.
                  I had a concept pretty much identical to what the OP describes in mind.

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                  • J Offline
                    Jim
                    last edited by

                    Are you sub-classing, or aliasing and redefining the class methods?

                    Hi

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      @jim said:

                      or aliasing and redefining the class methods?

                      You are correct.

                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                      • Dan RathbunD Offline
                        Dan Rathbun
                        last edited by

                        @thomthom said:

                        @jim said:

                        or aliasing and redefining the class methods?

                        You are correct.

                        I just hope that my version doesn't conflict.. ie: the constructor chain would not be broken, ...and visa versa.

                        I'm not here much anymore.

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
                          last edited by

                          @dan rathbun said:

                          @thomthom said:

                          @jim said:

                          or aliasing and redefining the class methods?

                          You are correct.

                          I just hope that my version doesn't conflict.. ie: the constructor chain would not be broken, ...and visa versa.

                          My intent was to just insert an intercepting hook - without further disrupting the objects. Just to collect the data that SketchUp doesn't expose.
                          However, I'm far away from releasing it, as it would need lots more work, error catching and testing. Not sure if it ever will be released. Depends if it can be made without interfering - as meddling with base classes is something I generally prefer to stay away from. It's been mainly an proof of concept.

                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          • fredo6F Offline
                            fredo6
                            last edited by

                            It is relatively easy to catch all menu text and proc (via aliasing #add_item).

                            It seems impossible to catch the proc for the UI::Command class. The proc argument is actually only passed in the .new construction. But very strangely, UI::Command does not seem to have a regular initialize constructor method like all Ruby classes.

                            For instance, in the following code, the method initialize will NEVER be called

                            
                            class UI;;Command
                               def initialize
                                   puts "Fake command initialize"
                               end
                            end
                            
                            UI;;Command.new
                            Error; #<ArgumentError; (eval);156;in `new'; wrong number of arguments (0 for 1)>
                            (eval);156
                            (eval);156
                            
                            

                            This may explain why there has been problem with UI::Commands (the grey out menu issue), because if there is no constructor, there is no garbage too!

                            Fredo

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
                              last edited by

                              @unknownuser said:

                              It seems impossible to catch the proc for the UI::Command class. The proc argument is actually only passed in the .new construction. But very strangely, UI::Command does not seem to have a regular initialize constructor method like all Ruby classes.

                              It's possible. 😄 I can send you the snippet if you want.

                              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              • fredo6F Offline
                                fredo6
                                last edited by

                                @thomthom said:

                                It's possible. 😄 I can send you the snippet if you want.

                                I just realized that UI::Command is a kind of fake class object factory. new is simply a class method, not an instance constructor (therefore there is no initialize method in that class).

                                Then, it is simple to trap both menus and commands

                                
                                class Sketchup;;Menu
                                   alias_method ;add_item_orig6, ;add_item
                                   def add_item(text, &proc)
                                      MyModule.register_menu(self, text, proc)
                                      add_item_orig6(text) { proc.call }
                                   end
                                end	
                                
                                class UI;;Command
                                   class << self
                                      alias_method ;new_orig6, ;new
                                   end	
                                   def self.new(text, &proc)
                                      cmd = new_orig6(text) { proc.call }
                                      MyModule.register_menu(cmd, text, proc)
                                      cmd
                                   end
                                end	
                                
                                
                                

                                Assuming you register the command and menu object, text and proc via your own method MyModule.register_menu.

                                Fredo

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  <span class="syntaxdefault"><br />class </span><span class="syntaxkeyword"><<</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> UI</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">Command<br />  <br />  alias </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">tt_old_new </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;new<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  private </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">tt_old_new<br /><br />  </span><span class="syntaxcomment"># @since 0.1.0<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  def new</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">*</span><span class="syntaxdefault">args</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">&</span><span class="syntaxdefault">block </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">    obj </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> tt_old_new</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">*</span><span class="syntaxdefault">args</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">,</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">&</span><span class="syntaxdefault">block </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">    obj</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">.</span><span class="syntaxdefault">send</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">proc</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=,</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> block </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">    obj<br />  end<br />  <br />end </span><span class="syntaxcomment"># class << UI;;Command<br /><br /><br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">class UI</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">Command <br />  <br />  </span><span class="syntaxcomment"># @since 0.1.0<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  attr_reader</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">(</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">proc </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  <br />  </span><span class="syntaxcomment"># @param [Proc] value<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  </span><span class="syntaxcomment">#<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  </span><span class="syntaxcomment"># @return [Proc]<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  </span><span class="syntaxcomment"># @since 0.1.0<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  def proc</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=(</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> value </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">)<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">    </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">@</span><span class="syntaxdefault">proc </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=</span><span class="syntaxdefault"> value<br />  end<br />  protected </span><span class="syntaxkeyword">;</span><span class="syntaxdefault">proc</span><span class="syntaxkeyword">=<br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault">  <br />end </span><span class="syntaxcomment"># class UI;;Command <br /></span><span class="syntaxdefault"> </span>
                                  

                                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • Dan RathbunD Offline
                                    Dan Rathbun
                                    last edited by

                                    I don't think I like overriding the inherited proc() method that comes down from Kernel (thru Object.)

                                    We already have naming convention established in that class, ie set_validation_proc

                                    I would suggest for setter, instead:
                                    set_proc(&block) or set_command_proc(&block)

                                    the getter:
                                    get_proc(&block) or get_command_proc(&block)

                                    and the getter for the validation proc:
                                    get_validation_proc

                                    I'm not here much anymore.

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      Good point Dan. I've not checked such conflicts yet and one of the reasons I'd not released the code before.

                                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • J Offline
                                        Jim
                                        last edited by

                                        So what's going to happen when you guys start aliasing each other's aliased methods?

                                        Hi

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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by

                                          Nuffin? Just a chain of calls?

                                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          • J Offline
                                            Jim
                                            last edited by

                                            @thomthom said:

                                            Nuffin? Just a chain of calls?

                                            Maybe. I don't know, I'm asking.

                                            Hi

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