Suceava Fortress
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Thanks for the nudge, Marian.
Apart from being of emotional significance to me ( I spent a great deal of my youth hanging around the Palace), it is a bit of a challenge on its own, as a rare and magnificent monument, as a national and international property, which was added to the UNESCO World Heritage in 1979.
Now, sorry for hijacking your thread, but I guess that a certain amount of artistic licence will also be necessary in this case - it is unlikely that this, very popular Hebrard´s depiction of the palace is historically accurate:
Excavations carried out in 2006/2007 discovered the ancient coast which had stretched the entire lenght of the palace. Thus the Farlati´s reconstruction seems more probable:
Perhaps Gaieus could enlighten me about this?
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There is a Hungarian guy who models our forts and castles as they are reconstructed for GE. Of course, they should not be on GE like this (not all are on the 3D Layer) but I'd never report any of them being "inaccurate" (in fact, I'll not even tell which are not accurate here
). (Any Googler reading this, please, skip the link...)
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?uq=1258839801239105506518182
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LOL.
Those are pretty nice, and I see he made a few from my side of the border -
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Another small update.
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It´s coming along really nicely.
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Whoa! Yes. Looking very good!
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Yet another small update. I have added floor boards on the walls and railing. I don't know how accurate are wooden boards on the walls...but I'm not sure if this type of fortress had completely rock walls or not and I know that in the walls there were chambers for various uses so I'm going with wood at the moment.
If you are wondering when I'll be detailing the interior buildings well...I keep delaying them because there are a few thing which are different in the references I found and I need to figure out which what how...
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Well, IF there was some wooden flooring there (I doubt however), your boards are definitely out of scale, Marian. They are too big IMO.
Anyway, these small details will add the realism eventually. I like the whole building very much so far. Maybe the terrain colour could be changed...
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You're the expert. I was merely going with one of the examples I used as reference. It's clear that these differences between the references mean that not a lot is known about most of the details or only a handful of experts are privy to such information.
About the terrain, what do you suggest? At the moment it is the texture google earth. -
Well, as it is now, it's a kind of clay render so I would not bother myself with the terrain texture. However, later you may wish to add something different (it's Kerky, isn't it? So some instanced vegetation and such could add some nice surround...)
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@gaieus said:
it's Kerky, isn't it?
No, it's Simlab Composer. I could add trees later on when the model is more complete.
I think the interior side of the wall is too high, I'll have to raise the buildings a little.
Here's another render, without the boards and with a simple terrain colour.
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It's also a great application (I have it although I am not sure if the latest version...)
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Yup, It's a pretty good piece of software. You should upgrade, it's free, unless you want to upgrade it from the rendering to animation version.
I've done a bit more tweaking. I have united the back wall with the interior building, similar to the physical model at the museum...added a bit more height to the walls and added the road and bridge.
I'll have to do a bit more work on how the bridge joins the road.
I'm also going to add a draw bridge.
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So far it really looks great! Nice project (I can imagine how you enjoy it).
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Thanks
@gaieus said:
(I can imagine how you enjoy it)
I do enjoy it and this project made me become even more fascinated with the architecture and history of castles and fortresses, even fortified houses and churches. There is something special in a fortified structure that I can't really put my finger on. I searched for these structures in my country and found out about some treasures I didn't know existed, some of them unfortunately lost to history.
I don't know exactly why I only now attempt to model this fortress that has been part of my life for a long time. It's interesting that this was not one of my first projects when learning SU or I didn't try it when you suggested it some time ago. Maybe it was my recent visit to Alba Iulia and witnessing the beauty and grandure of its Vauban style fortress now being reconstructed in all its glory included with guards in Austrian-Hungarian military uniforms. I think this made me long for something of equal measure that I could link myself to and be proud of my home town.
Unfortunately the ruins that now remain of the Suceava fortress while are interesting and somewhat impressive are underwhelming compared to its complete shape this why I opted for the reconstruction and not just modeling its ruins.
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A couple of years ago there were some talks about the Arad Fort becoming part of the World Heritage but I cannot find any info on it now (it is my sister-city and back then I used to work for the Town Hall here).
Also, there were plans to reconstruct much of it although the current GE imagery does not show if that happened.
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