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    • numbthumbN Offline
      numbthumb
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      Looking good indeed.
      How detailed is it supposed to be, Marian? (I know you mentioned a medium detailed model, I am just not sure what it means)
      I am thinking about making a model of Diocletian´s Palace in Split, but I can´t tell if I am going to finish it, even with today's life expectancy 😄

      Comfortably numb...

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      • GaieusG Offline
        Gaieus
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        @numbthumb said:

        I am thinking about making a model of Diocletian´s Palace in Split, but I can´t tell if I am going to finish it, even with today's life expectancy 😄

        🤣

        Here you are, NTh (click on the image)!
        😉


        http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/download?mid=408819c7962730a8c4d4434db4fc3ba2&rtyp=lt&ctyp=other&ts=1294743382000

        Gai...

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        • numbthumbN Offline
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          Ah! Fine! I knew it looked familiar! 😄

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          • MarianM Offline
            Marian
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            @numbthumb said:

            Looking good indeed.
            How detailed is it supposed to be, Marian? (I know you mentioned a medium detailed model, I am just not sure what it means)
            I am thinking about making a model of Diocletian´s Palace in Split, but I can´t tell if I am going to finish it, even with today's life expectancy 😄

            Well, I wanted to model the windows, the passage ways, railings on the wall, some of the interior court yard's details...maybe it's more than medium.

            That Diocletian's palace is awesome and it seems there are great pics of the reconstrcution. It would be a shame not to model it 😄

            http://www.croatia-nudistsbeaches-scubadiving.com/images/palaca_model.jpg

            @gaieus said:

            :thumb: Looking good so far. Now comes texturing I guess!:)

            I don't know, I'm not satisfied with it yet and still have to add the slits in the walls

            http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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            • MarianM Offline
              Marian
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              @numbthumb said:

              Now, sorry for hijacking your thread

              No worries I love these ancient castles/palaces/fortress and I'm of the opinion that most of them should be better protected, restored and even reconstructed where possible.
              In fact here is a cool thread I found where people from all over Europe posted some pics and info on fortified castles, churches.

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              • numbthumbN Offline
                numbthumb
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                Thanks for the link, Marian!

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                • numbthumbN Offline
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                  Thanks for the nudge, Marian.

                  Apart from being of emotional significance to me ( I spent a great deal of my youth hanging around the Palace), it is a bit of a challenge on its own, as a rare and magnificent monument, as a national and international property, which was added to the UNESCO World Heritage in 1979.

                  Now, sorry for hijacking your thread, but I guess that a certain amount of artistic licence will also be necessary in this case - it is unlikely that this, very popular Hebrard´s depiction of the palace is historically accurate:800px-SPLIT-Hebrard_overall_color_restitution.jpg

                  Excavations carried out in 2006/2007 discovered the ancient coast which had stretched the entire lenght of the palace. Thus the Farlati´s reconstruction seems more probable:800px-SPLIT-Farlati_restitution.jpg

                  Perhaps Gaieus could enlighten me about this? 😕

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                  • GaieusG Offline
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                    There is a Hungarian guy who models our forts and castles as they are reconstructed for GE. Of course, they should not be on GE like this (not all are on the 3D Layer) but I'd never report any of them being "inaccurate" (in fact, I'll not even tell which are not accurate here 😄 ). (Any Googler reading this, please, skip the link...)
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                    Gai...

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                    • MarianM Offline
                      Marian
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                      LOL.
                      Those are pretty nice, and I see he made a few from my side of the border 😄

                      http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
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                        @marian said:

                        I see he made a few from my side of the border 😄

                        And in Slovakia...
                        😉

                        Gai...

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                        • MarianM Offline
                          Marian
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                          Another small update.


                          Cetatea de Scaun a Sucevei.2253.jpg

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                          • numbthumbN Offline
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                            It´s coming along really nicely. 👍

                            Comfortably numb...

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                            • MarianM Offline
                              Marian
                              last edited by

                              @numbthumb said:

                              It´s coming along really nicely. 👍

                              Thanks. 😄

                              http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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                              • Bryan KB Offline
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                                Whoa! Yes. Looking very good!

                                See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
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                                  @bryan k said:

                                  Whoa! Yes. Looking very good!

                                  Definitely! 👍

                                  Gai...

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                                  • MarianM Offline
                                    Marian
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                                    Yet another small update. I have added floor boards on the walls and railing. I don't know how accurate are wooden boards on the walls...but I'm not sure if this type of fortress had completely rock walls or not and I know that in the walls there were chambers for various uses so I'm going with wood at the moment.

                                    If you are wondering when I'll be detailing the interior buildings well...I keep delaying them because there are a few thing which are different in the references I found and I need to figure out which what how...😛


                                    Cetatea de Scaun a Sucevei.2255.jpg

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                                    • GaieusG Offline
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                                      Well, IF there was some wooden flooring there (I doubt however), your boards are definitely out of scale, Marian. They are too big IMO.

                                      Anyway, these small details will add the realism eventually. I like the whole building very much so far. Maybe the terrain colour could be changed...

                                      Gai...

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                                      • MarianM Offline
                                        Marian
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                                        You're the expert. I was merely going with one of the examples I used as reference. It's clear that these differences between the references mean that not a lot is known about most of the details or only a handful of experts are privy to such information.
                                        About the terrain, what do you suggest? At the moment it is the texture google earth.

                                        http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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                                        • GaieusG Offline
                                          Gaieus
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                                          Well, as it is now, it's a kind of clay render so I would not bother myself with the terrain texture. However, later you may wish to add something different (it's Kerky, isn't it? So some instanced vegetation and such could add some nice surround...)

                                          Gai...

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                                          • MarianM Offline
                                            Marian
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                                            @gaieus said:

                                            it's Kerky, isn't it?

                                            No, it's Simlab Composer. I could add trees later on when the model is more complete.

                                            I think the interior side of the wall is too high, I'll have to raise the buildings a little.

                                            Here's another render, without the boards and with a simple terrain colour.


                                            Cetate de Scaun Suceava _169.jpg

                                            http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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