Suceava Fortress

Marian

Thanks for the advice Gaieus.
Aerilius did a wonderful job with such simple geometry.
I don't have GE installed so I can't check but I found this model of the present day ruins on the warehouse. http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=4d7bdc4fc264fafc8f8c90535e31623a&prevstart=0
Unfortunately it can't be downloaded.

Gaieus

Well, not a bad model but not the best I have ever seen either (more exactly, texturing is awful and since there aren't too many other details, this ruins the whole impression).
I'm sure you could do better!

(And install GE - it can be so much fun!)

Bryan K

Keep at it Marion. It's looking good.

numbthumb

I just thought someone might be interested in taking a virtual tour of the fortress:
http://www.360cities.net/image/suceava5#261.90,-33.20,70.0
(Marian has no need for that, of course. )

Gaieus

Nice find, NTh!

Marian

That't a great find Numb. That will be great for making textures.
Also found a link explaining how they made the 3d presentation of the fortress 6 years ago. It contains the pictures and angles I was looking for
http://journal.univagora.ro/download/pdf/334.pdf

Gaieus

Now back to work, Marian!

Marian

A couple of renders with a bit of progress and practice mostly.

Cetatea de Scaun a Sucevei.2234.jpg

Cetatea de Scaun a Sucevei.2249.jpg

Gaieus

Looking good so far. Now comes texturing I guess!

numbthumb

Looking good indeed.
How detailed is it supposed to be, Marian? (I know you mentioned a medium detailed model, I am just not sure what it means)
I am thinking about making a model of Diocletian´s Palace in Split, but I can´t tell if I am going to finish it, even with today's life expectancy

Gaieus

@numbthumb said:

I am thinking about making a model of Diocletian´s Palace in Split, but I can´t tell if I am going to finish it, even with today's life expectancy

Here you are, NTh (click on the image)!

numbthumb

Ah! Fine! I knew it looked familiar!

Marian

@numbthumb said:

Looking good indeed.
How detailed is it supposed to be, Marian? (I know you mentioned a medium detailed model, I am just not sure what it means)
I am thinking about making a model of Diocletian´s Palace in Split, but I can´t tell if I am going to finish it, even with today's life expectancy

Well, I wanted to model the windows, the passage ways, railings on the wall, some of the interior court yard's details...maybe it's more than medium.

That Diocletian's palace is awesome and it seems there are great pics of the reconstrcution. It would be a shame not to model it

@gaieus said:

:thumb: Looking good so far. Now comes texturing I guess!:)

I don't know, I'm not satisfied with it yet and still have to add the slits in the walls

Marian

@numbthumb said:

Now, sorry for hijacking your thread

No worries I love these ancient castles/palaces/fortress and I'm of the opinion that most of them should be better protected, restored and even reconstructed where possible.
In fact here is a cool thread I found where people from all over Europe posted some pics and info on fortified castles, churches.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=352324

numbthumb

Thanks for the link, Marian!

numbthumb

Thanks for the nudge, Marian.

Apart from being of emotional significance to me ( I spent a great deal of my youth hanging around the Palace), it is a bit of a challenge on its own, as a rare and magnificent monument, as a national and international property, which was added to the UNESCO World Heritage in 1979.

Now, sorry for hijacking your thread, but I guess that a certain amount of artistic licence will also be necessary in this case - it is unlikely that this, very popular Hebrard´s depiction of the palace is historically accurate:

Excavations carried out in 2006/2007 discovered the ancient coast which had stretched the entire lenght of the palace. Thus the Farlati´s reconstruction seems more probable:

Perhaps Gaieus could enlighten me about this?

Gaieus

There is a Hungarian guy who models our forts and castles as they are reconstructed for GE. Of course, they should not be on GE like this (not all are on the 3D Layer) but I'd never report any of them being "inaccurate" (in fact, I'll not even tell which are not accurate here ). (Any Googler reading this, please, skip the link...)