How Many Susans Can Your Computer Do?
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@solo said:
SU just ceased working...
Just wait (long). Often SketchUp looks like not responding but in fact it is still working: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=d661c13436861c968d1fe8cdc415f4c5
(you would need to download it. 3D warehouse neither managed to process the correct preview image nor a collada file nor the swivel view) -
I got to 100,000. While Sketchup still "works" I wouldn't say that its really "working"
I can orbit, but there is about a second delay when I do.
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@honoluludesktop said:
I guess girls have more curves, edges in this case:-)
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[attachment=0:3gt4u24j]<!-- ia0 -->Temp01.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:3gt4u24j]A more detailed comparison - taking into account the amount of triangles in each model:
Susan
======================================== Model Statistics ---------------------------------------- Temp02b - Arch.skp ======================================== Edges 463 Faces 22 Triangles 629 ========================================Sang
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200,000 Susans...
shoot for 1 million tomorrow.
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@krisidious said:
200,000 Susans...
That would be:
Edges: 92 600 000
Faces: 38 000 00
Triangles: 97 400 000@krisidious said:
shoot for 1 million tomorrow.
Edges: 463 000 000
Faces: 22 000 000
Triangles: 629 000 000Good luck with that!
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100,000
pretty slow... to even snag a screen pic.
dell m6400. not exactly a high horsepower machine.i did explode the original and made a new component with 'face camera' off.
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orbited slowly @ 100,000.
almost made a 100k selection.
and then 'sketchup has stopped working'.!!
no 200k for me.
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@bmike said:
i did explode the original and made a new component with 'face camera' off.
No need to explode for that. You can change the component properties from the Component Browser.
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i think it's just a matter of how long you're willing to wait.. going from 100,000 to 600,000 took around 40 minutes.
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nice Jeff... how many did you select at the largest copy?
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@krisidious said:
nice Jeff... how many did you select at the largest copy?
100,000 was the most selected at once.
@tourniquetmaster said:
My result was 10,000 Susans (on a MacBook pro). Can you do better?
nah, you can do more than that.. those 600,000 susans are on a mbp also..
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YES!!! ONE MILLION!
I cheated a little
I used guide points instead of Susans. and I kinda grouped them together as well. -
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Way back when I first started with SU I did a comparison of groups to components on SU speed, response and file size.
Keep in mind, there is only ONE Susan component definition in SU, but the graphics processor (either hardware or software) is doing ALL the work here. The graphic engine calls up the components definition and reconstructs it for each instance it is displayed. Only a components definition pointer is retained for each instance in memory or file.
So what you are really measuring is how good the graphics portion of your computer is, not so much the computational portion, or even memory.
Now a group is fully defined in memory and file for EACH and EVERY instance in the model. Both the computation AND graphics engines are working here, more computational, less graphical.
Try your million Susans again, but first explode Susan's comp and group her. I'll bet you won't get anywhere near as many, but the pan speed may actually improve a bit.
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@jgb said:
Now a group is fully defined in memory and file for EACH and EVERY instance in the model. Both the computation AND graphics engines are working here, more computational, less graphical.
Try your million Susans again, but first explode Susan's comp and group her. I'll bet you won't get anywhere near as many, but the pan speed may actually improve a bit.
Not quite - groups acts as components internally. When you copy a group you are making a new instance of that same group definition. The only difference is that groups are automatically made unique once you modify them.
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@thomthom said:
Not quite - groups acts as components internally. When you copy a group you are making a new instance of that same group definition. The only difference is that groups are automatically made unique once you modify them.
I stand corrected. However the correction still maintains my statement that groups are defined fully in every instance, unlike just once for a component.
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Only when it's made unique.
When you copy a group, you have two instances that both points to the same definition. You see in Entity Into that it lists how many copy there are of a given group. When it says you have more than one it's the same thing as if you had a component. -
@thomthom said:
Only when it's made unique.
When you copy a group, you have two instances that both points to the same definition. You see in Entity Into that it lists how many copy there are of a given group. When it says you have more than one it's the same thing as if you had a component.Sounds reasonable, but, please explain why when I did my test years ago, the file with the copies of a group was consistently bigger than the same file of the same number of the same entities but as a copied component. And it started panning faster. (Not a lot but noticeable)
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Don't know - not sure how things are stored in the .skp format.
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