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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
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      I often sit with models around ~200-300MB - mostly due to the fact I render so I use often high res textures. And if it's an interio model it can get to 500K+ faces.

      So I don't find 50MB to be that concerning. But jump from 11 to 50MB, what kind of very minor differences are you talking about? Yes it can happen, but there can be a number of reason.

      Have you remembered to purge?

      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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      • hellnbakH Offline
        hellnbak
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        There was no need to purge - the only difference between the two was a couple of minor changes to the dash. How can that cause a jump of almost 500 percent in file size?

        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
          last edited by

          without seeing or knowing anything about the changes it's impossible to tell

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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          • hellnbakH Offline
            hellnbak
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            Well the files are too big to attach here. I had saved probably 7 different versions after the "big jump", didn't notice the increase in file size, and no reason to suspect such a thing might happen. Anyhow, I have spent the past several hours copying and pasting all the changes I had made since it jumped in size onto the last version that was "normal",and now have a complete up-to-date version. And when I saved it, the file size was back to normal, so it doesn't seem like any changes I had made were responsible, since all those changes are incorporated into the new model. My obsession with saving, saving, saving paid off big time, and now I know to keep a close eye on the file size each time I do save a new version. Still, it would be so nice to know just what the heck did happen, it's gonna bug me forever.

            "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
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              You could upload them to one of the many hosting services.

              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
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                Until you find a way to upload it somewhere (which would probably be the only way for us to check what the issue really is), there is another trick to detect any too big texture file.

                Export your model as kmz (File > export > 3d model > GE kmz) then rename the kmz extension to zip and inside the the archive, there is a models folder in which there is another folder with the texture images. Any extremely big file will be apparent there.

                Gai...

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                • hellnbakH Offline
                  hellnbak
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                  OK, did as you suggested, and lo and behold, a couple of wood textures I had added to the dash were PNG instead of JPG. I generally like to work with the PNG format because it's not lossy like JPG. Anyhow, of course they were much larger than they would have been had they been converted to JPG first. Even tho I had deleted them from my model, they were still in the "in model" materials folder. Lesson learned, and I really appreciate all your help. Crisis averted, and I can now sleep at night

                  "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                  • thomthomT Offline
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                    @hellnbak said:

                    Even tho I had deleted them from my model, they were still in the "in model" materials folder. Lesson learned, and I really appreciate all your help. Crisis averted, and I can now sleep at night

                    So you had not purged them?
                    Or - the material was applied to some edges maybe? That prevents materials from purging, and many aren't aware of that because they never set the Edge Style to By Material

                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                    • hellnbakH Offline
                      hellnbak
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                      Allow me to demonstrate my ignorance - when "purging" was mentioned earlier, I assumed it just meant to go thru your model and physically delete all the stuff you no longer need. I did not know that it was also a menu item under Windows Also, I do not know what you mean by applying a material to an edge, or why that would make a difference. I've only been using SU for about three weeks, and the amount of stuff I don't know seems to be increasing instead of decreasing. Another Michigan winter is settling in and I am determined to use the coming miserable months and the books I recently bought to learn the things I need to in order to eventually create the type and quality of models that I have in mind. It certainly won't interfere with my life, I don't have one πŸ˜† .

                      "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
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                        I think you'll find the PurgeAll plugin very useful as it will go through your model and purge all unused stuff including materials, styles, components and so on. I have a keyboard shortcut for it and use it frequently.

                        And to reduce the list of things you don't know by one item, materials be applied to edges and they are if you select all of the geometry in a component and apply the material. In most cases this isn't a problem but if you are just "trying on" materials and don't replace the materials on the edges, they will remain after the purge operation. You normally don't see the edges as having materials if you are using All The Same for the edge color.

                        Applying materials to edges is useful sometimes. Although I often don't display my models that way, it is, in most cases, easier to apply the material to everything. I just have to remember I've done that if I replace the material later. Usually I just triple click on something in the component to select everything and repaint so the material gets replaced on the edges as well.

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
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                          My Materials Tools plugin let you remove materials from all edges.

                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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