[NEW]Sketchup 2 Vue

Gaieus

Not meaning to hijack the topic but Twilight Render can render SketchyPhysics animations pretty well.

YouTube - Tiger tank 3d sketchup model animation rigged with sketchyphysics
[flash=480,385:3qwq2r0v]http://www.youtube.com/v/LHRXDq8fuPk?fs=1&hl=en_US[/flash:3qwq2r0v]

YouTube - Jeep Wrangler off-road 3d animation. Sketchup sketchyphysics twilightrender
[flash=480,385:3qwq2r0v]http://www.youtube.com/v/tY5iP0BzNew?fs=1&hl=en_US[/flash:3qwq2r0v]

Krisidious

got my new parts installed... new OS and new installation of Vue.

nomo81

hi guys, i don't wanna be a partypooper about the release of the plug-in "sketchup2vue" but i don't get the plug-in work right, or at least not at the easy way, i am very excited the vue finally wanna support officially sketchup.

i recently bought the plug-in at $40dlls and i thought that it was the best deal of the year, finally i can use the full potential of vue with my models, but when i load it with vue its practical the same stuff if i export the model to .obj format and load it, only the python script of the sun position and camera position are new , not change anything about the geometry and the problem of the heavy models **(it need to be explode to zero objects and components / if you use components or groups in sketchup its a big trouble,)**and the projection of the maps material still in this release.

i work my models by colors in sketchup and in the rendering soft i load the materials (my rendering soft for work is artlantis /a very easy and effective one)
and with this plug when i wanna do the same in vue its practical impossible, the projection doesn't work with any of projection modes (world standard, parametric, or object standard, parametric, / automatic, faces, etc)

i don't wanna put my materials in sketchup, cuz i wanna use the full potential of the materials in VUE.

the only way i know that the models of sketchup work with VUE are:
1. Purge your model and fix problems
2. Check the reverse faces
2. Explode it to zero (make a copy if you need to change something in the future) no components, no groups, only pure geometry.
4. Save it
5. Open 3d max 2010 / 2011 and import the model with 3dconecction sketchup plug
6. Export it to OBJ with vue predefined settings but uncheck all the normals sections. (the skechup model dont got normals and if you dont uncheck it, will crash the export)
7. import the obj with VUE
8. check the size of your model in sketchup (feets, meters) and resize it in vue
9. Now the model don't got the heavy geometry (caused by the components and groups) and can move it very smooth and can load map materials into your model with no problem.
this is only the way i know to load my geometry into VUE,... maybe SOLO can tell us more about this issue (i know that solo got a lot of experience in this field) .
am a Artlantis guy that wanna learn more about VUE, but in my opinion and only my opinion the plugin of sketchup to VUE its a waste of money, or maybe i am doing something wrong, if some one got a better way to import the model please tell me.

regards
nacho

nomo81

the left one was exported with the sketchup 2 vue plug, material issue,
the right one was exported with 3dmax way., no material issue.

regards
nacho

test vue sketchup.jpg

Krisidious

I can export components and groups from SU to Vue...

do you have the new version or the update to the plugin?

nomo81

yes, me too, and sounds great in theory that we can import our groups and components , but vue cant handle well a lot of groups and components, specially when you got big models like this pictures.

make the display screen ultra slow, and makes impossible to work with your model.

any luck with the material map projection issue?

regards
nacho

1 test.jpg

Krisidious

well if you look at my screenshots above... my model is quite large and complex. I think that when you remove all materials from your model you'll find it imports fine into Vue... leading me to the conclusion that some materials are not welcome in Vue.

the model I posted has projected materials on the turrets

dburdick

@nomo81 said:

the left one was exported with the sketchup 2 vue plug, material issue,
the right one was exported with 3dmax way., no material issue.

regards
nacho

Hi Nacho. Can you send me the SU file of your test here and I will try and see what the problem is. Send the model to:

dburdick@e-onsoftware.com

Thanks

d12dozr

What atmosphere type, if any, do you guys find works best for architectural rendering?

d12dozr

I asked this on the Cornucopia forum but no response yet over there...

I'm having some trouble, hopefully just beginner's ignorance...

My Sketchup scenes are not translating to Vue cameras. I made sure to unlock the camera height and uncheck "Sun face camera" in Vue like the Sketchup2Vue manual says. I am opening the model in Vue using the Python loader script.
the imported model comes in partially below the ground in Vue, even though it is above ground in Sketchup.

I'm using Vue 8 Complete and SU 8 free for the Vue export.

dburdick

@d12dozr said:

I asked this on the Cornucopia forum but no response yet over there...

I'm having some trouble, hopefully just beginner's ignorance...

My Sketchup scenes are not translating to Vue cameras. I made sure to unlock the camera height and uncheck "Sun face camera" in Vue like the Sketchup2Vue manual says. I am opening the model in Vue using the Python loader script.

the imported model comes in partially below the ground in Vue, even though it is above ground in Sketchup.

I'm using Vue 8 Complete and SU 8 free for the Vue export.

We discovered the problem on this one. In Vue, go to Options-->General Preferences and then uncheck "Preserve size of natural elements at creation"

This is a legacy option that auto-adjusts scaling to Vue Units on imports. It should be off by default, but apparently on Vue 8 it's on - so just uncheck this.

d12dozr

@dburdick said:

We discovered the problem on this one. In Vue, go to Options-->General Preferences and then uncheck "Preserve size of natural elements at creation"

This is a legacy option that auto-adjusts scaling to Vue Units on imports. It should be off by default, but apparently on Vue 8 it's on - so just uncheck this.

That does it!
Thanks, Dave.

miikka1978

Has anybody experienced similar problem when using Sketchup models in Vue? I have exported my Sketchup model into Vue with the new plugin. But, when I move the model in Vue it is not complete component. There is separate SingleSidedFacesGroup that I have not created in Sketchup.

dburdick

@miikka1978 said:

Has anybody experienced similar problem when using Sketchup models in Vue? I have exported my Sketchup model into Vue with the new plugin. But, when I move the model in Vue it is not complete component. There is separate SingleSidedFacesGroup that I have not created in Sketchup.

You have to move the model as a whole. The single sided faces group consists of all of the faces which have materials on both sides. If you just grab the whole model and move it, all of the sub-components will move with it -- including the single-sided faces group.

miikka1978

@dburdick said:

You have to move the model as a whole. The single sided faces group consists of all of the faces which have materials on both sides. If you just grab the whole model and move it, all of the sub-components will move with it -- including the single-sided faces group.

Thanks for explaining dburdick. Anyway, it seems that there are many other faces with material on both sides in my crane model. But, export doesn't create "loose geometry" in these cases. Based on this, I believe that the problem arises when there is material on both sides of face and these materials are different.

Is there is any way/plugin to examine Sketchup models and geometries in order to find out if there are faces with different materials on the sides of the same face?

d12dozr

Here is one by TIG: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=264134#p264134

dburdick

@miikka1978 said:

Thanks for explaining dburdick. Anyway, it seems that there are many other faces with material on both sides in my crane model. But, export doesn't create "loose geometry" in these cases. Based on this, I believe that the problem arises when there is material on both sides of face and these materials are different.

Is there is any way/plugin to examine Sketchup models and geometries in order to find out if there are faces with different materials on the sides of the same face?

The SUVueExporter creates either:

double-sided faces - where the materials are the same on both sides or if one of the sides uses the default material
single-sided faces - where the face uses a different material on each side and neither of the sides is the default material

The reason for isolating the single-sided faces is that these faces are created as a single-sided mesh in Vue (e.g. where each polygon is treated as having a unique material on each side).

Bob James

I am unable to load a SketchUp model of a house into Vue 9. I'm attempting to use the SU2Vue ruby script in Sketchup 8 Pro.

Upon completion of export from Sketchup, I get a .vob file and a folder with an .xml file, a .py file and many .jpg and .png files.

I have set the Camera Height to unlocked and Point Sun at Camera disabled.
I've also unchecked "Preserve size of natural elements at creation"

If I use the Automation -> Run Python Script all I get is a large ball as the model.

If I try to use File -> Load Object I get an error statement saying that it can't find the .tga file xxxxxx.tga. If I say no to it's query to look for it, Vue crashes.

A truly distressing introduction to Vue

Error received when trying to load .obj file

This is supposed to be a house!!! Results from Automation -> Run Python

Krisidious

@bob james said:

I am unable to load a SketchUp model of a house into Vue 9. I'm attempting to use the SU2Vue ruby script in Sketchup 8 Pro.

Upon completion of export from Sketchup, I get a .vob file and a folder with an .xml file, a .py file and many .jpg and .png files.

I have set the Camera Height to unlocked and Point Sun at Camera disabled.
I've also unchecked "Preserve size of natural elements at creation"

If I use the Automation -> Run Python Script all I get is a large ball as the model.

If I try to use File -> Load Object I get an error statement saying that it can't find the .tga file xxxxxx.tga. If I say no to it's query to look for it, Vue crashes.

A truly distressing introduction to Vue

I have been using the Import option... not load or even Python...

try that and report back... are you using 9? because I am using 8.5... this may be a 9 bug.

d12dozr

Bob,

I use the Automation -> Run Python Script and it works for me, like Kris, I'm also using Vue 8.

TGA is an image file, like JPG. Maybe you could try finding and deleting/replacing that material in the Sketchup file before exporting, see if that helps.