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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
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      And the plus side of these patches are that they are easy to UV map. ๐Ÿ˜‰

      Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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      • daleD Offline
        dale
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        UV mapping ๐Ÿ˜ฎ Please go on ๐Ÿ‘

        Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
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          Patches generate regular geometry which is much easier to map as you know the full structure of the mesh.

          Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          • PixeroP Offline
            Pixero
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            @thomthom said:

            Something like this:
            ๐Ÿ˜‰

            ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ˜„ Absolutly!

            Is it Nurbs or splines or what?

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
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              Bezier patch.
              I was thinking that if you could assemble a Bezier surface of Quad and Tri patches you can shape most things.
              Currently it has the 16 control points, but I kind of want a simpler one, with just the corner control points with handles. But I guess there can be use for both...

              Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              • fredo6F Offline
                fredo6
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                3D Nurbs are possible in SU in theory, but requires to interface the script with a C library in order to get decent performance for preview and edition. That's of course possible, but a long work, especially for merging two nurbs surfaces.

                Indeed, it would help if the SU team would fix the bug which prevents surfaces to be drawn in any other color than gray or black (as you can see in Curviloft).

                Note that Nurbs would not always answer the problems of the real world when you wish to have given contours, with strict dimensions. Most 3D modelers use numerous techniques to manage this, not just Nurbs.

                I may one day do something with Nurbs, but I am also exploring alternate techniques that may give acceptable results in some frequent situations. For instance, I am playing with surface generation from contours (not necessary horizontal), as shown on the picture below. This is not based on Nurbs, but I think it will give a more realistic shape when modelling a terrain.

                Toposhaper.jpg

                Fredo


                Topo Gradient 2.skp

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
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                  @unknownuser said:

                  3D Nurbs are possible in SU in theory, but requires to interface the script with a C library in order to get decent performance for preview and edition.

                  You mean deforming it live? Is the calculation that expensive? If it's just applying the transforming that consumes time I don't think moving to C will do much.

                  For Vertex Tools I wrote the soft selection code in C. What I found took a lot of time was casting the Ruby values to C data types - so much in face that doing a prepass of converting the whole 3d point data set first before processing it gained a great amount of speed.

                  I'm currently working on a Bezier Surface system where you add quad and tri patches together. At the moment it all in experimental stage - but as it matures I might port some of it to C if I find a lot of the calculation to be very consuming. Though often I find the bottleneck to be SU's methods of adding geometry.

                  And I'm also trying to get to grips with B-Splines - I've never worked much with them. But when I read about Bezier curves I often see them mentioned - that they can be more intuitive to control?

                  Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
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                    Maybe this can interest you ๐Ÿ˜‰

                    http://www.tomdukich.com/bez ee ay logo.jpg

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                    • mitcorbM Offline
                      mitcorb
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                      @Pilou:
                      Look out. The Phonetians might put a bounty on your head for besmirching their prophet. ๐Ÿ’š

                      I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
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                        @Mitcorb ๐Ÿ’š

                        P Bezier was a funny guy! ๐Ÿ˜Ž

                        Very very interesting site!! ๐Ÿ˜Ž (I have crossed Ergun AKleman for Topmod: French version ๐Ÿ˜‰
                        Site of Topmod is now on "Stand by" ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
                        you can just load the prog! โ˜€
                        A very special but absolutly terrific program!
                        Here the last version of TopMod ๐Ÿ˜‰
                        Here computer aided caricature ๐Ÿ˜‰
                        P Bezier By Ergun Akleman

                        http://www.viz.tamu.edu/faculty/ergun/artworks/morphing/graphics/images/bezier-toon.jpg

                        By me with Topmod ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        http://forums.polyloop.net/imagehosting/19646f79a19764f7.jpg

                        http://forums.polyloop.net/imagehosting/1964703b3c059111.jpg

                        http://forums.polyloop.net/imagehosting/196470a02db9646b.jpg

                        http://forums.polyloop.net/imagehosting/196470a02dba7dfd.jpg

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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