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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      @kenny said:

      TIG, thanks for the LISP code but unfortunately I don't have Autocad. I do have Doublecad, will it work with that and if so how?

      Kenny

      DoubleCAD doesn't have Lisp...
      If you confirm that the DWG you linked to is the required one I'll process it for you... 🤓

      TIG

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      • K Offline
        Kenny
        last edited by

        Thanks for the further replys. TIG also many thanks for the kind offer. As it happens I've just had an updated survey sent through to me with a slightly different site area as it's just been resurveyed. I should have checked this before but I'm going to ask the survey company if they also have a 3D version, which being a recent survey I would have thought might be the case. If they don't I'll be in tough again with the latest plan so don't do anything at the moment. Thanks again for the offer and I'll let you know.

        Kenny

        http://www.townscapesolutions.co.uk/

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        • EarthMoverE Offline
          EarthMover
          last edited by

          @kenny said:

          I've got a 2d CAD survey with spot heights and wondered if there was a way to convert to 3d terrain. This isn't a 3d point cloud so can't use cloud.rb as the points are all on the same plane. There's a similar discussion here http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=14409&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=cloud The website with the convertor is not in existence any more and I wondered if there has been a plug in produced since then. Tig did discuss a LISP routine to convert to a point cloud which could then be converted to terrain. I don't have Autocad however. Any suggestions gratefully received!

          Kenny

          I do this manually as I'm typically the one who also takes the spot elevation shots when I measure out a job. I then do my base map and draw curving contour lines which average out the elevation heights in 1 foot increments, then when I'm ready to make the grade mesh, I raise them to their Z height and use the Make Contours or more recently Fredo's Curviloft Junctions tool.

          I'm not sure how this could be made into a plugin, other than perhaps a tool that would allow you click on certain points in a grid layout and prompt you for a spot elevation reading. Then averaging those readings into a point cloud or contour lines. I don't believe one exists, but it would save me a hell of a lot of time if it did!

          You could also try Google Maps data and see how accurate it is given your elevations and perhaps go from there.

          3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
          Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
          Content Creator at Skapeup

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            I did it any way -see if this is anything like you want ...Levels.zip

            TIG

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            • K Offline
              Kenny
              last edited by

              That's great TIG, thanks very much. The geometry looks fine. I've also investigated whether the original survey is available in 3D and it's not, therefore I'd be very grateful if you could do the same for the latest plan attached.

              There are a couple of issues. It comes in too small (1000 times), possibly because I'm using metres and you've done it in mm. Also it would be great if it could be overlaid on the original survey base as a separate component so I know where the terrain sits in relation to the site plan features. I'me very grateful that you've taken the time to do this and I realise this will take you more time, I've sent you a PM.

              Kenny


              12708_OGL-REV3.zip

              http://www.townscapesolutions.co.uk/

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                Here's a zip containing the original DWG stripped back.
                The DWG levels only moved in 3d to their true-Z.
                A SKP with these both imported [aligned] and 'meshed'...KennyTerrain.zip

                TIG

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                • K Offline
                  Kenny
                  last edited by

                  TIG, thanks again, that's perfect! I've tried PMing you however the messsages are not appearing in my sent box. Let me know if you don't receive them soon.

                  http://www.townscapesolutions.co.uk/

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    PM got and replied...

                    TIG

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                    • W Offline
                      wloveland
                      last edited by

                      I have a similar problem, I have an autocad file that has a series of spot heights with the heights in text next to them.

                      I have run the autolisp program on them and now have them at their spot heights. But then when I export them into sketchup and click the contour button on sand box. It says that you must first select the contours to use.

                      Any Ideas what I am doing wrong?

                      Thanks

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        Do you select them first? Are they not components or groups (in which case, explode first)?

                        (Welcome to SCF by the way - Will, isn't it?)
                        😄

                        Gai...

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                        • W Offline
                          wloveland
                          last edited by

                          Thank you!

                          yeah I have selected them and they aren't in a group or component.

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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
                            last edited by

                            But are they not individual ("small") groups/components either?
                            How about sharing the file here? (How big is it?)

                            Gai...

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                            • W Offline
                              wloveland
                              last edited by

                              I currently have this in Autocad, but when I transfer it to sketchup to use contours it doesn't work.

                              I have also tried to used point cloud and it doesn't work either.

                              Anyone have any ideas.


                              Spot heights.dwg

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                              • GaieusG Offline
                                Gaieus
                                last edited by

                                It my answer to you here as "version 2" - i.e. if you have guide points (which are not geometry so the sandbox tools cannot handle them), use this plugin to triangulate the points
                                ( Select all > Plugins menu > Triangulate points).

                                (I did not know your units to import so imported in feet as far as I remember but it took a couple of seconds to triangulate only so you can redo)


                                mesh.skp


                                mesh.png

                                Gai...

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                                • J Offline
                                  JackHill
                                  last edited by

                                  I've tried really hard to sort a similar problem by searching the forums for answers but still can't do it. I have Auto CAD 3D spot heigh data and need to convert it into a 3d landscape terrain. I can't find any plugins that work on my Mac with Sketchup Pro 2016. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    If the CAD file's points are located in 3d you simply make copy of the DWG file and delete everything that isn't a 3d point - or perhaps save them as an external DWG.
                                    Then import that DWG into an empty SKP file.
                                    You now have a 3d cloud of guide-points...
                                    Use one of the available extensions to make the mesh from the preselected points, e.g.
                                    https://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TIG_points_cloud_triangulation
                                    https://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=TopoShaper
                                    note that needs LibFredo too:
                                    https://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=LibFredo6

                                    TIG

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                                    • H Offline
                                      hkarakion
                                      last edited by

                                      Hello everyone,

                                      any one can help me please in reflecting my topography CAD drawing into sketchup showing the real shape of the landscape based on the point levels supplied from the surveyor.

                                      Thanks in advance.

                                      Regards,

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                                      • Dave RD Offline
                                        Dave R
                                        last edited by

                                        @hkarakion said:

                                        any one can help me please...

                                        We can probably help you. You'd need to give us more information. What kind of file did you get from the surveyor? What version of SketchUp are you really using? Your profile says you are using 2020 Free/Make but there is no such version. If we know the correct version we can help you sort out what tools you have available to get the job done.

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