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    • EarthMoverE Offline
      EarthMover
      last edited by EarthMover

      Is there a plugin out there (or solution) that will allow you to create a quick and permanent cut where a "glued" window component is cutting an opening in a face? I would like to place all of my windows and doors and then be able to add thickness to the interior walls without having to explode the windows to make the cut. Perhaps something similar to ThomThom's superglue plugin, but that would do supercut.

      3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
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      • Rich O BrienR Online
        Rich O Brien Moderator
        last edited by

        I presume the cutting feature in 1001bits which cut openings in walls for windows/doors etc won't do as you're adding thickness afterwards. But I thought I'd suggest it.

        Supercut is an excellent concept!

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        • EarthMoverE Offline
          EarthMover
          last edited by

          I find the 1001bits tool to be cumbersome. Id rather just drop my windows in on a single plane surface, line them up, copy and adjust as needed, then when satisfied, make the cut permanent. Then I can select all the walls and use Joint Push Pull with a negative number and set to thickening. Quick and easy. It works if you explode all the windows, but you gain file size and lose editing over multiple components.

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          • J Offline
            Jim
            last edited by

            BIllW posted some code related to this, but I don't know if it is a complete plugin.

            http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=156120#p156120

            Hi

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            • EarthMoverE Offline
              EarthMover
              last edited by

              Thanks Jim. Bill's Component Punch will work for what I need. I'll just make the walls with thickness first, select the windows and use the component punch. In the testing I did it worked flawless.


              Component Punch.jpg

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              • D Offline
                dtrarch
                last edited by

                Heads UP
                Component Punch fails in SU 8 Pro 😞

                dtr

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                • EarthMoverE Offline
                  EarthMover
                  last edited by

                  I'm using SU8 Pro and it works fine for me.

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                  • D Offline
                    dtrarch
                    last edited by

                    Hi EM

                    I will check it out again.
                    Only JPP extrude along path and bezspline installed.?

                    Thanks for the backcheck

                    dtr

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                    • EarthMoverE Offline
                      EarthMover
                      last edited by

                      I noticed that it fails if you resize the component using Fredo Scale, but not if you resize using the native scale tool. Something I'll have to be mindful of since I have my scale shortcut set to Fredo's tool and barely ever use the native one.


                      Component Punch test.jpg

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                      • D Offline
                        dtrarch
                        last edited by

                        hi EM

                        Tried with no other script installed on SU 8 pro on desktop (XP Pro) and SU 8 free on my laptop.(Win 7 family pro)
                        (made sure that sketchup.rb was there too per script req)

                        The sketchup.rb is a copy of the one on version 7.1 that works like a charm.
                        version info:for script

                        Author : Bill Wood at wh.wood@ntlworld.com

                        Usage : Select component(s) on faces and run

                        Date : April 2006 - May 2009

                        Test made on hole cutout.skp

                        Script shows up on plugin menu but no luck on select/execute.?

                        Too bad to not have this one work for sure.
                        Thanks for taking another look too.

                        dtr

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                        • J Offline
                          Jim
                          last edited by

                          It should not work for anyone. It tries to call the .entities method on a ComponentInstance.

                          So for the folks where it does work, you have some other plugin installed that is defining a .entities method for ComponentInstances.

                          Here is the corrected version.


                          componentpunch.rb

                          Hi

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                          • D Offline
                            dtrarch
                            last edited by

                            Jim

                            Thanks a bunch.
                            A real bread and butter app and now works as advertised.

                            Good of you to intercede. 😄

                            dtr

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                            • mitcorbM Offline
                              mitcorb
                              last edited by

                              Jim: 2 questions
                              Will this be listed in the Extensions Index?
                              Should this thread be retitled?

                              And thank you for the revision.

                              I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                              • EarthMoverE Offline
                                EarthMover
                                last edited by

                                It's nice to rediscover these obscure and rare plugins and find them so useful. This one in particular as it was buried in a thread and never even got it's own post. If it were still in development, I would ask that a one step undo be added.

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                                • pilouP Offline
                                  pilou
                                  last edited by

                                  Crazzy plug 😎
                                  Just a note if you copy move the component after one use of Component Punch
                                  this one don't work again with this component moved! 😮
                                  Seems component "Glue" state is losted ❓

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                                  • EarthMoverE Offline
                                    EarthMover
                                    last edited by

                                    Pilou,

                                    Seems you have to reglue the window (ThomThom's Superglue plugin) and then choose "make unique" and the window will punch properly after that. Although it does still lose it's orientation to glue to other horizontal planes.

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                                    • pilouP Offline
                                      pilou
                                      last edited by

                                      Thx I will see that 😄

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        That's works 😉

                                        http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=54431

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          You can modify the code so that if does retain the hole punching property of the component - but the punched hole doesn't move with it...

                                          Line #186... add a # so it reads #comp.glued_to = nil - from now on after a restart of SUp any newly punched-component will continue to make a hole in the same face as before.

                                          This very tool actually forms the basis of a hole-puncher I have had on a back-burner for many months...
                                          Imaging a variant of this tool with a few tweaks, such as -

                                          Operated from the right-click context-menu if the selection contains suitable components that punch a hole in a 2D face...

                                          Retaining the component's hole-punching properties in the original face.

                                          Ability to limit the punched hole's "depth" [say 500mm/20" - adjustable perhaps by right-click dialog], so that if it's a component placed on a single skin wall face then there isn't a hole punched right across the room!

                                          A way of linking the faces of the punched hole's "reveals" to the punching-component - using id attributes based on a time+rand id-stamp, and suitable observers attached to the component/reveal's-geometry - both at startup of tagged items if preexisting and as they are punched/made - so that then if you Move/Scale/Rotate a punching-component its associated reveal's-geometry transformation is adjusted to suit [that is, the 3D hole moves with the punching-component]; and also if you erase the punching-component the reveal's-geometry goes too [perhaps with a dialog asking if you want to keep the punched hole(?)]; and if you erase any part of the reveal's-geometry all of the reveal's-geometry erases - but perhaps with a dialog asking if you really want to do that, OR to recreate the punching-component's hole [therefore keeping the attribute linking]; if you Move the face containing the inner reveals hole then the reveals will stretch to suit automatically; if you distort [e.g. Scale] the edges forming the inner-hole of the reveal then this does not affect the rest, but if you Scale/Move the edges forming the outer-hole of the reveal [i.e. in line with the punching-component] then it does the same to the punching-component - e.g. moving it or scaling it to suit the changes - perhaps with a dialog asking if you want to do that...

                                          The reveal's material etc should match those of the inner face so that the outer wall face material is not used incorrectly;...

                                          Comments on this welcome... It's just I never finished tidying up my code for publication... ☀

                                          TIG

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                                          • EarthMoverE Offline
                                            EarthMover
                                            last edited by

                                            Thanks TIG the code tweak fixed the issue with the windows retaining their cutting and gluing attributes. The plugin you are working on sounds like a winner. I like the idea of defining punching depth. This would allow punching through single surface walls without coming out the other side. I also love the idea of being able to make changes to the components and having it reflected in the hole. Another option, if doable, would be the ability to "heal" the punch and delete the component leaving no trace of a hole. Sounds similar to the double cut plugin ThomThom was working on.

                                            3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                                            Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                                            Content Creator at Skapeup

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