Is the Gallery section starting to resemble 3DWH?
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We used to have the "native" and "rendered" subforums in the gallery. To be honest, it was not very successful. I do not know how it would work nowhowever (with maybe 10 times more members although admittedly not all are actively posting). Where would Tomsdesk's watercolour things go now? And where would they go knowing that for some layers of the images he also uses rendering engines?
Me personally, when visiting the gallery, do not make too much difference based on the "media" that conveys the idea but the idea is the more important.
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not, you haven't changed the content of the image
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@solo said:
@unknownuser said:
pps: Definition of wanker:
°(British AU NZ slang pejorative) An idiot, a stupid, annoying or ineffectual person.
Here is what it means here though...First coined in the early 80’s, a wanker is one who currently resides or was born on the westbank of New Orleans, La (Gretna, Marerro, etc). Derived from it’s origin “westbank” (west of the Mississippi River), wankers are most commonly lower income, blue collar Caucasians, who typically speak with poor grammar and in loud tones. Wankers can be easily identified by a fake tan, skirts 3 sizes too small, spikey hair, and domestic cars. It is not uncommon for wankers to get married at an early age (18-25), as well as having children during that same time period. Common physical characteristics of female wankers include outfits that scream for attention but come across as desperate, heavy makeup, possibly fake breasts if they decide to use what small amount of college savings their parents have accumulated on them, and big sunglasses. In males, spiky guido hair is the most dominant characteristic, as well as poorly managed steroid abuse, extra small shirts, stud earrings, and unfashionable shoes. Wankers will often travel out of their element into the Eastbank, where they congregate at clubs such as Republic or The Venue, where for that short span of time try to feel like they fit in with the rest of New Orleans society.
So, just don't call anyone from the US South a wanker.... -
Evan, you just described a Redneck.
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I just realize that there are wankers all around the world!
Thank god they do not know the word here (although when they suspect someone calls them names they do not understand, they get suspicious that those words are not very flattering either)
When my mom once yelled at her 2-y-o grandson saying "are you normal"? the little kid got scared and with a sad face answered "No, I am not normal"!
Obviously didnot know the meaning... -
@solo said:
Evan, you just described a Redneck.
Ouch, that hurt.
I am from the west bank XD
But getting back to the point...I kinda want the gallery to stay the same, why change the system when it could do more harm than good? -
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Deja vu!..... This same discussion happened at the original SU Forum many years ago. Some felt the quality of the submissions was substandard. Hence many Architectural types left and created a separate forum.
I would leave the structure as is. If you have a need for more professional opinions and feedback, then goto the appropriate forum, such as http://www.pushpullbar.com/But be careful! posting crap over there wont be tolerated, and you could endup bleeding.
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@unknownuser said:
Okay, imagine this: I export a large image from SU. I then downsample it in Photoshop, so that I end up with crisp edges.
Native or not?
native in my opinion. A screenshot would be 'raw'
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@solo said:
@unknownuser said:
pps: Definition of wanker:
°(British AU NZ slang pejorative) An idiot, a stupid, annoying or ineffectual person.Forgot the other ex colonial country, South Africa.
wanker!
Just remembered the link name to one of my favorite Mac utilities!
Sharpshooter http://www.iwankerl.com/Software/Sharpshooter/
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@unknownuser said:
How many times can a car model be "Modded" by adding increasingly bigger rims, rear wings, and lowering the vehicle? It becomes pointless to visit the warehouse (I like to call it the Sh*@house), as there is not really anything there of much value anymore.
As time goes on, I agree with what you said more and more. People upload "The most detailed line ever", or "The roundest box ever" to the 3DWH...
Not to mention the fact that there are three spammers on there right now. Honestly, I don't think that the good balances out the bad anymore. http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=d534f833ef926de7f257e6407cc45a4f&prevstart=0 
It's rather sad where it's gone. There used to be more people who really cared about their work like Xayzer. http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?uq=0638468642647248596253588&scoring=m It's really becoming worse every day... -
And then there are rednecks like me who just southern the place up
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Leave it as it is. The wip and finished works separations will lead to a complete mess, it happened to other forums (blenderartists). Just tell me where to place the thread of Durant Hapke? Where the "contest like" threads of solo? A separate topic like "tests" could be interesting though.
Avoid a voting system (like five stars) too, this will only show that there are some "clubs" inside SCF community. It already smells like this to me...
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As a total noob here I'd just like to add that for someone who doesn't know their way around there is so much to sort through.
Personally I think it would be helpful if the gallery had subsections.
It seems to me that a gallery is a place to display finished work, be it good or bad.
Perhaps a subsection simply called the drawing office or drawing board or the workshop, something that gives it an obvious use, where all the WIPs can be viewed with a link to the final Image, or images, that have eventually been placed in the gallery with a link back.This way you can look through the finished work and easily find the relevant WIP or happily follow the WIPs themselves.
I also agree with others that have said it's better to post a separate thread when you want an answer to a question. I have a lot of experience with forums, as a user and moderator, and threads with a specific question in their header get a much higher answer rate than questions buried in other threads. It also makes searching for answers more effective.
And I'm have been happily amazed by the helpfulness of all the people here.
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@solo said:
I say leave things the way they are, It just takes a click to get out of a thread with works one may feel trivial, and then you can ignore it from there onwards.
Maybe folks could use 'WIP' in the title also.
I agree with Pete and others that think we should keep it as is. Adding "WIP" to the subject line, or ""no post work", "Podium render" etc. would be enough. Easy enough to click through and pick out you personal interest.
Some years ago the moderators simplified the forum and I think it has been and will be for the best.
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Is the poll's result no longer valid?
After a long and sensible debate it seems not many members were particulary interested in the split? Even though those that voted favoured the split.
The long serving contributors seem to favour an 'as is' approach, just better tagging of posts.
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I agree with rclub (whether that matters or not though. . .)
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@unknownuser said:
Is the poll's result no longer valid?
After a long and sensible debate it seems not many members were particulary interested in the split? Even though those that voted favoured the split.
The long serving contributors seem to favour an 'as is' approach, just better tagging of posts.
I don't know if you realise Sketchucation is a commercial enterprise. As far as I know Mike Lucey, Gaieus, Coen and TBD are the owners. Their revenue seems to come from Google ads. They don't seem to consider whether it could be some kind of PR consultancy for those who use Sketchup and contribute expertise in one form or another.
But if at the base it is really a kind of Women's Institute then "as is" seems dull but peaceful. It just seems a bit of an insult to the efforts of those who brought us high speed, multi-connected multimedia personal computing not to even discuss, for example, Matteo's suggestion. Don't you think?
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Well, one thing is that SketchUcation is a commercial enterprise and another is that the forums have only been "commercialised" with what you can see as ads here. We are using a pre-made forum software that allows some things and allows others via so called "MOD's" (read "modifications" that we would call "plugins" in SU).
Trying to find the best possible solution for everyone involved in such a case is not easy. Ye, I could modify the size of (generated) thumbnails to quite an extreme but would that be handy? I am not sure.
Please, keep the ideas coming...
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@unknownuser said:
@chrisglasier said:
I don't know if you realise Sketchucation is a commercial enterprise.
Hi Chris,
I'm completely aware of the value of the SketchUcation brand but, as Gaieus has mentioned, the forums i feel remain relatively free from providing a commercial service to it's consumers[members]. But that is whole other debate from Dean's original issue.@unknownuser said:
@chrisglasier said:
But if at the base it is really a kind of Women's Institute then "as is" seems dull but peaceful.
At the base of all established communities is etiquette. Which i think is what has kicked off this debate! And as it has ran i've followed closely as it highlights a flaw. For me, as new members register, whether young or old, it's up to those who care to lead by example. Leaving 'as is' suggestion that has developed throughout the thread shows me that fundamentally the system works. But if creating a peaceful but dull community we fail to correct the flaw then members like Dean, Stinkie, Matteo and yourself(+ many more) will continue to feel frustrated by numerous unfinished and jumbled WIP's. I voted yes to splitting the Gallery but also posted asking is the 'poll still valid?' The reason for this was i noticed a theme begin to develope in the debate. One which you also hit upon. Have we explored all options before coming up with a viable solution? Dean also showed concern with regard limiting participation and segregating user levels.
So, this leads us back to what is wrong?
Here, is typically what new members are faced with on arrival at SCF. The Newbie Forum clearly states it's intention but every other Forum allows members to interpret what they consider they should post there. This casual (or dull
) approach has led to the perceived abuse of the Gallery Forum. The unwritten etiquette of what a WIP should entail has been misinterpreted. And because this has been let linger it has grown, leaving long serving contributors dismayed and new members unaware of this 'unwritten etiquette'.How do we fix it?
@unknownuser said:
@chrisglasier said:
It just seems a bit of an insult not to even discuss, for example, Matteo's suggestion.
You've hit the nail on the head here, as has Matteo. Looking elsewhere for creative approaches will provide possible solutions. Adapting these approaches here will provide the framework which we can build upon. As Gaieus, just mentioned it's by making these suggestions and offering opinions that'll help iron out the wrinkles!
I hope this clears up my previous post, which unintentionally lacked detail. And yes i'm incredibly dull, that's why i come here
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