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    • pjbazelP Offline
      pjbazel
      last edited by

      Pilou,

      Here is an example of the problem I was describing above. I made notes on the model, so you should see exactly where the issue is.

      If you think there is a quick way to fix this that would be great. I have never used cleanup, so if you find a way to fix the offset & intersect problem with that plugin please tell me.

      Thanks for helping with this.


      Example of problem PB_v6.skp

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        As Pilou explained...
        You have one very tiny edge - resulting in the unframed section, when Sketchup fails to process its all but coincident vertices as separate points in space - a known tolerance issue with some tools like INtersect, FollowMe etc. That rogue edge is only 0.00874214349270001" long !
        There are also several edges shorter than the frame width.
        When Sketchup does an 'offset' if one of the edges is shorter than the offset distance you get a 'bow-tie'. Because LatticeMaker uses the same principle that's what you get if you try to use a face that has a short edge.
        To see this use the Offset tool on a face with a short edges, with the 'frame-width' and you'll get a bow-tie...

        It's easy fixed, using the Move tool on vertices to make these edges longer, or to combine two all-but-coincident vertices into one, so that the edge vanishes.
        The attached is a mesh made using adjusted bits to avoid 'bow-ties'.

        Incidentally, your mesh is facing down so the Lattice will be made upside down, unless your Reverse the faces - as in my example.Capture.PNG

        PS: I do have an unpublished SmartOffset tool that avoids the bow-tie issue with all offsetting...

        TIG

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          Thx for the V6! πŸ˜‰
          Edit your Style for avoid bold lines and extremities!
          ANd more easy for see tiny segments! πŸ’­
          (if you love it, you can re put them at the end of the session πŸ˜‰

          Look in mega zoom where you have problem on the original!
          It's normal at some few places on the original result you have
          this very very tiny line!!!Problemo.jpg

          In fact just in one place ! β˜€
          problemo1.jpg

          So you must first collapse all these crossing Lines / vertices and all will work like a charm! πŸ˜„

          You have also a cool one Multiface offset by Remus for make like lattices or some tricky things πŸ˜‰

          http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=87095

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            this unpublished Smart Offset will be a hit! β˜€
            The Christmas gift ? πŸ˜„

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              @unknownuser said:

              this unpublished Smart Offset will be a hit! β˜€
              The Christmas gift ? πŸ˜„
              I'll need to dig it out, dust it off and see... πŸ˜’

              TIG

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
                last edited by

                Cool πŸ˜„

                pop.jpg

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  "TIG-Smart_offset" http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=446462#p446462
                  Merry Christmas, Pilou !

                  TIG

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    Yep! Many thanks! That's astonishing! I will try that! β˜€

                    But careful I am champion of the Murphy's law! πŸ’š

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                    • pjbazelP Offline
                      pjbazel
                      last edited by

                      TIG, Pilou,

                      Thanks for taking a look. I didn't understand why that one face with the ultra short edge wasn't intersecting. Now I get it!

                      As for the bowties, yes, I realized this was an issue that results from having a side shorter than the offset distance.

                      I ended up using fredos tools-on-surface offset with the 'simplify contours' setting enabled to fix the bowties, as opposed to changing the vertices before using lattice-maker, which is a great option. I imagine Fredo's offset would produce a similar result to using TIGs smart offset. Only problem is then I have to do all the lattice modeling myself, and it would really be nice to be able to use TIG's lattice-maker.

                      If your planning to do any updating for lattice-maker, which is awesome, it would be great to see a option for TIG's smart offset incorporated directly into the lattice-maker process. but then I don't know anything about programing rubies, and maybe that would be a real pain in the butt.

                      Anyhow, thanks for all the help once again. Oh, and all the toys, or perhaps im supposed to call them tools πŸ˜„

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                        usmanhussain
                        last edited by

                        Hi Guys,

                        I have installed the latticeMaker.db.plugin for sketchup. I have followed the steps in the following video...
                        http://34dmedia.wordpress.com/tutorials-instruction-2/sketchup-instructions/...

                        i am at the stage where i need to extrude the lines but the command extrude lines is no where to be found in the Tool menu in sketchup.

                        CAN ANYONE HELP ME!!! PLEASE...TRYING TO CREATE A GRIDSHELL EFFECT FOR THE ROOF CONSTRUCTION TO MY UNIVERSITY PROJECT!!

                        If you can message me on here or email me on usmanalihussain @ hotmail.co.uk that would be much appreciated.

                        cheers

                        usman

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          @Usman

                          You seem to be muddling up several quite different tools. πŸ˜•

                          The LatticeMaker is in The Plugins menu - not in the Tools menu.
                          If you want to 'Extrude Edges' then you will need to install the 'Extrusion Tool' set to get a various tools to make surafces.
                          There are also other tools to extrude edges into 3d profilesetc...

                          From what you say you are trying to make a curving glazed roof [?]... I would use ExtrudeEdgesByRails - using four curves that define the perimeter, to make the roof's curving surface.
                          Then process that selected surface with LatticeMaker, to create the desired frames and panes of glass etc...
                          Perhaps an example image of the kind of thing you are trying to get would help us help you...


                          Capture.PNG


                          Capture1.PNG

                          TIG

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Version v1.3 is now available
                            http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=244981#p244981
                            Download its RBZ archive from the 'SketchUcation PluginStore' page...
                            OR AutoInstall it from the 'SketchUcation Plugin Store' dialog within SketchUp itself...

                            TIG

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                            • charly2008C Offline
                              charly2008
                              last edited by

                              Hi TIG

                              Some may not know that there are two "Lattice Plugins" from you. I find both very helpful. Would it be possible for you to bring both together in order to get these different results.

                              Charly


                              Unbenannt-1.jpg

                              He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                              • broomstickB Offline
                                broomstick
                                last edited by

                                Hi TIG, finally got around to make an Italian translation for this plugin. Tested it, seems to work fine.

                                Words with an accent in Italian (at the end of a word, sometimes we use Γ¨ and Γ ) have been replaced without that letter, because I don't know if they would be read.

                                Anyway, here's the lingvo:

                                latticeMakerIT.lingvo.zip

                                Hope it's of use to other Italian speaking users πŸ˜„

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                                  tulacong
                                  last edited by

                                  good man

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                                    tobias3d
                                    last edited by

                                    install .rbz? in sketchup

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      @tobias3d said:

                                      install .rbz? in sketchup

                                      Is that a question about how to install RBZ files in SketchUp?
                                      If so: http://www.thomthom.net/thoughts/2012/01/installing-plugins-for-google-sketchup/

                                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        tobias3d
                                        last edited by

                                        thanks‘‘‘‘ thomthom

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                                          askmo
                                          last edited by

                                          help me please.
                                          I dwnl Lattice Maker v1.3 20130528 has ".lingvo" file extension, but in the plugin folder it don't work because is not file .rb.
                                          I wonder, how I can do to work it?

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            @Morris

                                            Since you have not supplied your OS or SUp version I must guess...

                                            How did you download this exactly ?

                                            Did you get it as a .RBZ file ?
                                            Did you then install it using the v8 [latest version] Preferences > Extensions > Install... button

                                            OR did you auto-install it using the SketchUcation Plugin Store dialog from within SketchUp?

                                            OR did you rename it .ZIP and extract its file/subfolder of files and put these into the Plugins folder, respecting the same relative relationships of files?

                                            This has been covered endlessly on the forums...
                                            Thomthom linked to a relevant post a few items back...
                                            If you do not keep the same relative locations tools just won't work! So for example if you put the tool's lingvo files directly into the Plugins folder you are screwed!

                                            Look in the .ZIP/.RBZ and you will see the tool's main 'loader' .rb and a subfolder of the same name containing a few other files - in the case of this tool there are some .lingvo files used for translations; in this tool's archive there is also a 'deBabelizer.rb' file used for the translations...

                                            The 'automated installation' methods are by far the safest for users such as yourself who are somewhat challenged in this regard... I commend them to you.

                                            If you have mis-installed files you MUST remove everything and start again - in the case of this tools having some duplicated lingvo files in the wrong location won't do any harm BUT for other tools that ship with rb files inside their subfolder moving those out into Plugins will break SketchUp BIG TIME!!
                                            So please don't do it, and if you do tidy up !

                                            TIG

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