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    • pilouP Offline
      pilou
      last edited by

      Maybe you can use Clean Up by Thomthom ?

      Frenchy Pilou
      Is beautiful that please without concept!
      My Little site :)

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      • pjbazelP Offline
        pjbazel
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        @unknownuser said:

        Maybe you can use Clean Up by Thomthom ?

        That could be one option, but, I suspect that won't work.

        The offsets edges produced by lattice maker do not intersect one another when they cross. For some reason you have to tell SU to intersect to break the edges at the crossing. This generates a additional face, which must then be intersected with the edges to form the 'pane'.

        This really creates a lot of work. And though I would love to use lattice maker, I found it was faster and cleaner to use ToS offset on each cell, before JPP-ing. However, if lattice maker had a simplify offset feature I would have saved a ton of time.

        Do you think clean up would work for that? I haven't used it before.

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          Can you post a 3D SU example model of your Voronoรฏ problem of intersection ?
          (save as V6)

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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          • pjbazelP Offline
            pjbazel
            last edited by

            @unknownuser said:

            Can you post a 3D SU example model of your Voronoรฏ problem of intersection ?
            (save as V6)

            Sure, I will post it this weekend. Just at work now ๐Ÿ˜„

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            • pjbazelP Offline
              pjbazel
              last edited by

              Pilou,

              Here is an example of the problem I was describing above. I made notes on the model, so you should see exactly where the issue is.

              If you think there is a quick way to fix this that would be great. I have never used cleanup, so if you find a way to fix the offset & intersect problem with that plugin please tell me.

              Thanks for helping with this.


              Example of problem PB_v6.skp

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                As Pilou explained...
                You have one very tiny edge - resulting in the unframed section, when Sketchup fails to process its all but coincident vertices as separate points in space - a known tolerance issue with some tools like INtersect, FollowMe etc. That rogue edge is only 0.00874214349270001" long !
                There are also several edges shorter than the frame width.
                When Sketchup does an 'offset' if one of the edges is shorter than the offset distance you get a 'bow-tie'. Because LatticeMaker uses the same principle that's what you get if you try to use a face that has a short edge.
                To see this use the Offset tool on a face with a short edges, with the 'frame-width' and you'll get a bow-tie...

                It's easy fixed, using the Move tool on vertices to make these edges longer, or to combine two all-but-coincident vertices into one, so that the edge vanishes.
                The attached is a mesh made using adjusted bits to avoid 'bow-ties'.

                Incidentally, your mesh is facing down so the Lattice will be made upside down, unless your Reverse the faces - as in my example.Capture.PNG

                PS: I do have an unpublished SmartOffset tool that avoids the bow-tie issue with all offsetting...

                TIG

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
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                  Thx for the V6! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                  Edit your Style for avoid bold lines and extremities!
                  ANd more easy for see tiny segments! ๐Ÿ’ญ
                  (if you love it, you can re put them at the end of the session ๐Ÿ˜‰

                  Look in mega zoom where you have problem on the original!
                  It's normal at some few places on the original result you have
                  this very very tiny line!!!Problemo.jpg

                  In fact just in one place ! โ˜€
                  problemo1.jpg

                  So you must first collapse all these crossing Lines / vertices and all will work like a charm! ๐Ÿ˜„

                  You have also a cool one Multiface offset by Remus for make like lattices or some tricky things ๐Ÿ˜‰

                  http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=87095

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    this unpublished Smart Offset will be a hit! โ˜€
                    The Christmas gift ? ๐Ÿ˜„

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      this unpublished Smart Offset will be a hit! โ˜€
                      The Christmas gift ? ๐Ÿ˜„
                      I'll need to dig it out, dust it off and see... ๐Ÿ˜’

                      TIG

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        Cool ๐Ÿ˜„

                        pop.jpg

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          "TIG-Smart_offset" http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=446462#p446462
                          Merry Christmas, Pilou !

                          TIG

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            Yep! Many thanks! That's astonishing! I will try that! โ˜€

                            But careful I am champion of the Murphy's law! ๐Ÿ’š

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • pjbazelP Offline
                              pjbazel
                              last edited by

                              TIG, Pilou,

                              Thanks for taking a look. I didn't understand why that one face with the ultra short edge wasn't intersecting. Now I get it!

                              As for the bowties, yes, I realized this was an issue that results from having a side shorter than the offset distance.

                              I ended up using fredos tools-on-surface offset with the 'simplify contours' setting enabled to fix the bowties, as opposed to changing the vertices before using lattice-maker, which is a great option. I imagine Fredo's offset would produce a similar result to using TIGs smart offset. Only problem is then I have to do all the lattice modeling myself, and it would really be nice to be able to use TIG's lattice-maker.

                              If your planning to do any updating for lattice-maker, which is awesome, it would be great to see a option for TIG's smart offset incorporated directly into the lattice-maker process. but then I don't know anything about programing rubies, and maybe that would be a real pain in the butt.

                              Anyhow, thanks for all the help once again. Oh, and all the toys, or perhaps im supposed to call them tools ๐Ÿ˜„

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                                usmanhussain
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                                Hi Guys,

                                I have installed the latticeMaker.db.plugin for sketchup. I have followed the steps in the following video...
                                http://34dmedia.wordpress.com/tutorials-instruction-2/sketchup-instructions/...

                                i am at the stage where i need to extrude the lines but the command extrude lines is no where to be found in the Tool menu in sketchup.

                                CAN ANYONE HELP ME!!! PLEASE...TRYING TO CREATE A GRIDSHELL EFFECT FOR THE ROOF CONSTRUCTION TO MY UNIVERSITY PROJECT!!

                                If you can message me on here or email me on usmanalihussain @ hotmail.co.uk that would be much appreciated.

                                cheers

                                usman

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
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                                  @Usman

                                  You seem to be muddling up several quite different tools. ๐Ÿ˜•

                                  The LatticeMaker is in The Plugins menu - not in the Tools menu.
                                  If you want to 'Extrude Edges' then you will need to install the 'Extrusion Tool' set to get a various tools to make surafces.
                                  There are also other tools to extrude edges into 3d profilesetc...

                                  From what you say you are trying to make a curving glazed roof [?]... I would use ExtrudeEdgesByRails - using four curves that define the perimeter, to make the roof's curving surface.
                                  Then process that selected surface with LatticeMaker, to create the desired frames and panes of glass etc...
                                  Perhaps an example image of the kind of thing you are trying to get would help us help you...


                                  Capture.PNG


                                  Capture1.PNG

                                  TIG

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Version v1.3 is now available
                                    http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=244981#p244981
                                    Download its RBZ archive from the 'SketchUcation PluginStore' page...
                                    OR AutoInstall it from the 'SketchUcation Plugin Store' dialog within SketchUp itself...

                                    TIG

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                                    • charly2008C Offline
                                      charly2008
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi TIG

                                      Some may not know that there are two "Lattice Plugins" from you. I find both very helpful. Would it be possible for you to bring both together in order to get these different results.

                                      Charly


                                      Unbenannt-1.jpg

                                      He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                      • broomstickB Offline
                                        broomstick
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi TIG, finally got around to make an Italian translation for this plugin. Tested it, seems to work fine.

                                        Words with an accent in Italian (at the end of a word, sometimes we use รจ and ร ) have been replaced without that letter, because I don't know if they would be read.

                                        Anyway, here's the lingvo:

                                        latticeMakerIT.lingvo.zip

                                        Hope it's of use to other Italian speaking users ๐Ÿ˜„

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                                          tulacong
                                          last edited by

                                          good man

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                                            tobias3d
                                            last edited by

                                            install .rbz? in sketchup

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