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    • simon le bonS Offline
      simon le bon
      last edited by simon le bon

      (Is it the good place for this ? I don't know)

      (thank youTIG so lot for this new set of tools which increase as we can't tell the power of SU)

      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/KerkyThea/TIGDome001_550.jpg

      [Plugin] Extrude Edges by Rails by Face is very interesting and promising to my point of view.
      But his behavior seems complex and have to be tamed if we want to attempt predictable results...


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_001_th.jpg


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_002_th.jpg


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_003_th.jpg


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_004_th.jpg


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_005_th.jpg


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_006_th.jpg


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_007_th.jpg

      INVALIDATION: I apologize for the two following conclusions! I don't understand what happened, I'm unable to reproduce the next two tests ????? 😳


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_014_th.jpg


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_015_th.jpg

      rectification:

      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_013_th.jpg

      But at least the behavior is simpler this way 👍

      *s

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      • X Offline
        xrok1
        last edited by

        WOW! thats a lot to grasp. 😆 maybe you could study TIGs other extrude tools too. it would be nice to know how they all work 😕

        “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

        http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          So Simon before TIG answer put all in the positive X Y Z quadran 😉

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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          • jason_marantoJ Offline
            jason_maranto
            last edited by

            Ah! Great -- this is the thing that is needed! Raw material for a manual...

            Best,
            Jason.

            I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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            • simon le bonS Offline
              simon le bon
              last edited by

              @unknownuser said:

              So Simon before TIG answer put all in the positive X Y Z quadran 😉
              👍


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_010_th.jpg

              *s

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                Family illness miles away from home means I can't pay full attention right now... 😒

                However, the profile-face's orientation [as explained in the notes] is taken from its 'flat' Y/green axis which is taken as Z/vertical when it's copied and 'transposed' onto the end of a rail.
                The face is also 'transformed' onto the nearest end of any rail curve.
                Perhaps using one face and one rail will give you simpler examples - use EEbyFace... This is 'method' used in EEbyRailsByFace so the results should be the same - the more complex EEbyRailsByFace assumes you understand the basic rules applying to EEbyFace...
                Also the built-in FollowMe that's used can 'twist' the profile, so you need to factor that in...
                That might explain why the face isn't at the slope' angle but perpendicular to the first segment in the rail's curve ?
                😕

                TIG

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                • simon le bonS Offline
                  simon le bon
                  last edited by

                  Now I am sure any more of nothing but:

                  WARNING:


                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_020_th.jpg

                  Re:

                  @unknownuser said:

                  Extrude Edges by Rails by Face":2chior74]The path ends nearest to the face will be used, so asymmetrical faces
                  should be placed nearest to the side requiring that orientation.

                  May be the best is to always operate with the same arrangement.
                  *s

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                  • simon le bonS Offline
                    simon le bon
                    last edited by

                    thank you xrok1, Pilou, Jason.

                    @unknownuser said:

                    Extrude Edges by Rails by Face":sih1xuny]A copy of the Face is added to each Rib's Path end, rotated so that
                    its normal is parallel to the vector of the first edge in each Path.


                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_016_th.jpg

                    (5)The PIVOT is the nearest edge or the nearest Point of the face from the red axis, rotating around red axis
                    (sorry for my english)

                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_017_th.jpg


                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_018_th.jpg


                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_019_th.jpg

                    *s

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                    • simon le bonS Offline
                      simon le bon
                      last edited by


                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_021_th.jpg

                      Rectification: I'm wrong about these "expected" 30°. Measuring isn't done the good way.

                      @unknownuser said:

                      and TIG is going to write:
                      Also the built-in FollowMe that's used can 'twist' the profile, so you need to factor that in...
                      That might explain why the face isn't at the slope' angle but perpendicular to the first segment in the rail's curve ?

                      I can "see" the behavior for Rails Shape but I can't express it by theory! (help for that dear TIG!)


                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_022_th.jpg

                      *s

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        @ Simon
                        If you want some crazzy structures take a look to Topmod 😉 (it's free) 😎
                        A true gem! You can Load / Save as OBJ 😲
                        My Topmod gallery 💚 (2pages)

                        http://www.topmod3d.org/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=458&g2_serialNumber=2

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • simon le bonS Offline
                          simon le bon
                          last edited by

                          You are an artist dear Pilou 👍

                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/PilouTopmod03.jpg

                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/generalPicts/PilouTopmod04.jpg

                          ++s

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                          • simon le bonS Offline
                            simon le bon
                            last edited by

                            Dear TIG,
                            I wish a strength health for your family.

                            Thank you for attention and to your explanation guides. -> Quotes and rectifications added in consequence here and there.

                            @unknownuser said:

                            Also the built-in FollowMe that's used can 'twist' the profile, so you need to factor that in...


                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_026_th.jpg

                            Two observations:

                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_027_th.jpg

                            [Plugin] Extrude Edges by Faces


                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_023_th.jpg

                            Re:for me, icons number 2 and 3 are affected to the same "extrude edges by face" ❓

                            @unknownuser said:

                            use EEbyFace...
                            A good idea. This shows me I was wrong to think until now that profiles and rails was treated differently 😉


                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_024_th.jpg

                            Playtime: Cubic chocolate cage


                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_025_th.jpg

                            *s

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