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    • EdsonE Offline
      Edson
      last edited by

      i am thinking of doing a spiral stair like the one you see below. i have seen many tutorials here but they usually focus on the threads and how to build them. my doubt refers to how one does more effectively the ribbon-like continuous balustrade. any ideas on it or tips to where i could find a good solution?

      EscadaHeli_Sanaa-Almere.jpg

      edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
      http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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      • A Offline
        alpro
        last edited by

        Edson, don't know if this will help you out at all plus I'm sure the power users here probably have a quicker way to do it but here's my shot.

        Mike


        Continuous balustrade.skp

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        • EdsonE Offline
          Edson
          last edited by

          thanks, mike. it certainly is one way of doing it.

          edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
          http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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          • Chris FullmerC Offline
            Chris Fullmer
            last edited by

            You could also use the follow me and keep plugin to make the railings and such. Then fit the stairs into it. That could probably also work.

            Chris

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            • jeff hammondJ Offline
              jeff hammond
              last edited by

              here's a quick method using 2 rubies.. joint push pull and helix from the curve maker plugin


              spiral.jpg


              spiral_.skp

              dotdotdot

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
                last edited by

                Despit the fact that Spiral staircases are ready made inside see this video
                1001bits "extrude along path"
                Just use an helix as path 😉

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                • D Offline
                  d12dozr
                  last edited by

                  Jeff's method is great, and could save a step and some cleanup by using TIG's EE by Vector to pull the helix up vertically. So you would:
                  -Draw helix with Curve Maker
                  -Extrude helix vertically with EE by Vector
                  -use JPP to give it thickness

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                  • EdsonE Offline
                    Edson
                    last edited by

                    thanks, guys, for your kind help. i will try all the suggestions and will report back when i have done my own spiral stair.

                    best regards,

                    edson

                    edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                    http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                    • W Offline
                      watkins
                      last edited by

                      Dear Edson,

                      A quick model using screw1_5.rb

                      Regards,
                      Bob


                      Quick model.skp

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                      • EdsonE Offline
                        Edson
                        last edited by

                        one problem i am facing right now is how to draw a helix that will fit precisely the stair i am building. i have tried helix, drawhelix and curvemaker but they all seem not to make things easier for one.

                        helix asks you to select a face. it does not seem to accept integers like 1.5.
                        Screen shot 2010-04-04 at 12.12.46.png
                        in drawhelix, what is pitch and sections per?
                        Screen shot 2010-04-04 at 12.13.15.png
                        the parameters in curvemaker are obscure: what are from turns, to turns, sides/turn?
                        Screen shot 2010-04-04 at 12.13.54.png

                        edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                        http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          In Drawhelix, "Pitch" is the total height of the helix while "Sections per" will refer to the segment count it will use per turn (in that screenshot 5 turns).

                          So say if you want to combine it with a "regular" circle base, which has 24 segments all around, leave it at 24 in the plugin, too.

                          Gai...

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                          • simon le bonS Offline
                            simon le bon
                            last edited by

                            Hi Edson, Hi everybody,

                            And why not use COMPONENT STRINGER ?

                            It is very powerful and flexible. >> Once the component is distributed along the path, you can open it and work on it in order to change the all stair in one pass: for example build and join the ribbons to make a complete one 😉 (I understand myself 😆 )


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                            😛 simon

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                            • charly2008C Offline
                              charly2008
                              last edited by

                              Hi,

                              maybe a simple method with draw helixand follow me and keep. However, I do not know yet how to make the transition to the next floor!


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                              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                jeff hammond
                                last edited by

                                @edson said:

                                the parameters in curvemaker are obscure: what are from turns, to turns, sides/turn?

                                from turns to turns has to do with the origin parameter.. if you have the origin set at 0,0,0 then set from turn at 2 and to turn at 3.. the helix will end up being one full revolution starting above the actual origin (ie, it will be as if two revolutions were made but only the top revolution will be drawn)

                                for simplicity sake (or the way i use it).. if you want one rotation, set it from turn 0 to turn 1.. if you want 1 1/2 turns then go from 0 to 1.5.. 3 revolutions = from 0 to 3 etc... then move the helix into the location you want..

                                sides/turn simply means how many line segments you want the helix to be drawn with per 1 revolution.. same thing as drawing a circle in SU - default is 24 sides/turn but you can change it to whatever you like.

                                dotdotdot

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                                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                  jeff hammond
                                  last edited by

                                  @d12dozr said:

                                  Jeff's method is great, and could save a step and some cleanup by using TIG's EE by Vector to pull the helix up vertically. So you would:
                                  -Draw helix with Curve Maker
                                  -Extrude helix vertically with EE by Vector
                                  -use JPP to give it thickness

                                  oh yeah, that's way better..

                                  screen-1.jpg

                                  dotdotdot

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                                  • D Offline
                                    dtrarch
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi Edson

                                    Easy to build a circular stair using 2 Olde scripts.
                                    draw helix and spiral stair.
                                    Both available on Didier's site.
                                    (seems to be off line now)
                                    Just to make sure here is the all script zip file and quick tut on how to build.
                                    Use the handrail path (followMe and Keep) to extrude handrail shape or to create walls along the stair.
                                    For floor to floor just copy and move up/down as needed.

                                    Thanks for jogging my memory on this too.

                                    dtrSU SPIRAL STAIR TUTORIAL.png


                                    us_all_scripts.zip


                                    SPIRAL STAIR TUTORIAL.skp

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                                    • charly2008C Offline
                                      charly2008
                                      last edited by

                                      At the end it should look like that. Still without stairs. Any Idea how to complete it with steps?


                                      Spiral stair1.jpg


                                      Spiral stair2.jpg


                                      Spiral stair3.jpg


                                      Spiral stair.skp

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                                      • EdsonE Offline
                                        Edson
                                        last edited by

                                        thanks to all of you for your contributions. there is now more than one method to solve this problem.

                                        before checking here i found another way of doing it precisely with the stair tool of 1001bit tools (excellent set of plugins, by the way). i attached a tutorial explaining how i did it.
                                        red_heli_stair.png


                                        Spiral_Ribbon_Stairs_Tut.skp

                                        edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                        http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Here's another way - entirely by hand - without Plugins [from a Plugin-fiend] 😉Capture.PNGHelicalStairWithoutPlugins.skp

                                          TIG

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                                          • EdsonE Offline
                                            Edson
                                            last edited by

                                            beautiful, TIG. it shows once more the power of sketchup. but nonetheless i will tell as a friend: plugins can make your life much easier! there are some people in this forum who make wonderful plugins... 😉

                                            edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                            http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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