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    • P Offline
      Panga
      last edited by

      Humm, if there's some ruby guru here or anyone else that is able to find a solution for thoses toolbars, I'm ready to pay for it !! And after that, I'll send the bill to Google...

      Seriously, Is it asking too much to have just a decent UI ??

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        @panga said:

        Humm, if there's some ruby guru here or anyone else that is able to find a solution for thoses toolbars, I'm ready to pay for it !!

        There's been a great number of brave attempts... with no real success...

        @panga said:

        Seriously, Is it asking too much to have just a decent UI ??

        No.

        Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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          Panga
          last edited by

          I don't know if this solution as already been suggested, but would it be possible ?

          toolbarstest.JPG

          This way we could have just a few toolbars...

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
            last edited by

            The only control we have over toolbars from the API is adding buttons and hide/show the toolbars. That's it. ๐Ÿ˜ž

            Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            • P Offline
              Panga
              last edited by

              And could it be done using a webdialog ?

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
                last edited by

                Not flyouts.
                With webdialogs we can create normal non-flyout menus, but you got this large window frame as well. that's why I was interseted in thsi guy that managed to dock SU's toolwindows to SU's viewport.

                Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                • D Offline
                  dedmin
                  last edited by

                  Better with a second monitor

                  220.tmp.jpg

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                  • alexschreyerA Offline
                    alexschreyer Extension Creator
                    last edited by

                    From my days programming with Delphi, I remember that for a developer it is possible to just buy a new "toolbar system" and add it to the code. It is not too hard to do this since many components are out there. There is no real need to go with the default UI elements.

                    And although I still haven't warmed up to the Office-ribbon in Revit, I would not mind the ribbon in SU if it kept everything in place.

                    Cheers,
                    Alex

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                    http://sketchupfordesign.com/

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                    • B Offline
                      bytor
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                      Alex,

                      I know what you mean about the Revit Ribbons - but when you get used to where everything is (I still have to look for 4 or 5 items I commonly use) it becomes pretty productive. Something similar would be nice for SU - but I doubt you will see Google adopt such a MS flavor. I have to instruct and often support users @ work on SU, and it drives me crazy looking for toolbars in their perosnalized layouts.

                      Dean

                      Find the Cost of Freedom.....

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                      • P Offline
                        Panga
                        last edited by

                        Humm another suggestion...Is that possible to insert a swf file in a webdialog ? I have some skills in AS3 that could allow me to create my own menu with flyouts...And is it possible to hide the window of a webdialog ?

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
                          last edited by

                          @panga said:

                          Humm another suggestion...Is that possible to insert a swf file in a webdialog ?

                          A Webdialog is just an HTML document. So yes.

                          @panga said:

                          I have some skills in AS3 that could allow me to create my own menu with flyouts

                          You won't be able to make flyouts that goes outside the webdialog window.

                          @panga said:

                          And is it possible to hide the window of a webdialog ?

                          I take it you mean the window frame? That can't be done. ๐Ÿ˜ž

                          Thomas Thomassen โ€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                          • P Offline
                            Panga
                            last edited by

                            Damn...everything is against us... ๐Ÿ˜›

                            EDIT : The better alternative I see, is to do the same thing that Fredo6 did with Tools on surface plugin where a "toolbar" appears at the top of main window (where we draw) with all the tools and options of the plugins...

                            This way, we could regroup tools and plugin by categories in order to have less toolbars displayed in SU.

                            EDIT : Or maybe doing something like in Blender, some contextual menu giving access to everything...but all those things should be develop by google again...

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                            • ken28875K Offline
                              ken28875
                              last edited by

                              I agree with Panga. We need to find a way to have the plugins toolbars stay in place.

                              I used a lot of plugins for my work everyday and I keep on adding new ones. So it is very frustrating an annoying to have to put them back in order every time a new plugin is added that messes everything up.

                              Another thing too, is the toolbars will go crazy after we minimize the windows and come back to full size.

                              Hopefully someone will find a fix to these issues.

                              Thanks and have a terrific day!

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                                solo
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                                ๐Ÿ˜ฒ ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ๐Ÿ˜ฒ ๐Ÿ’š

                                Yikes, tooo much, my eyes hurt.

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                                • K Offline
                                  Khai
                                  last edited by

                                  how hard would it be to create a ruby that creates a single floating toolbar containing all the tools installed in one panel?

                                  install a new ruby, run the panel ruby to add the new tool... the panel floating so there's no workspace muckup..

                                  just pulling this outta the air so don't take to seriously if it's a bad idea ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                  • soloS Offline
                                    solo
                                    last edited by

                                    Or have all toolbars hidden hitting f11 shows them and hides them again?

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                                    • R Offline
                                      remus
                                      last edited by

                                      @khai said:

                                      how hard would it be to create a ruby that creates a single floating toolbar containing all the tools installed in one panel?

                                      install a new ruby, run the panel ruby to add the new tool... the panel floating so there's no workspace muckup..

                                      just pulling this outta the air so don't take to seriously if it's a bad idea ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                      I think that one goes in the 'nice in theory but doesnt work in practice' pile. The major flaw that comes to mind is scrambled ruby scripts which cant be modified in any way unless you can get hold of the original file, but then that rather defeats the point of scrambling it.

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                                      • P Offline
                                        Panga
                                        last edited by

                                        I'm becoming crazy...after three days of work under SU, I'm afraid of minimizing any window...whatever the program I'm using, I'm juste thinking in my head "Don't do that you idiot !! You'll have to reorganize all your toolbars !!"...but then I realize that I'm not in SU and I can breathe freely...please Google...do something for me, I'm sick !!

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                                        • J Offline
                                          Jim
                                          last edited by

                                          It's certainly possible to replace most toolbars with a single window. I have taken to using a horrible, hacked-up, hand-coded WebDialog to replace all my Toolbars.

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                                          I think a4chitect's Launchit has a lot of potential.

                                          Hi

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                                          • demD Offline
                                            dem
                                            last edited by

                                            It was really annoying. so I make a toolbox with tabs + remake standard panels

                                            http://a2.inf.ua/IMG/toolbox.png

                                            https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fjBpssNdQ_w/VMlBZQmmcCI/AAAAAAAACrY/sHsk-BPXWU4/w326-h233-no/toolbox.gif

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