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    [Plugin] Extrude Edges by Rails by Face

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    • J Offline
      joebamber
      last edited by

      Thanks TIG - Noobie error here --> <--
      πŸ˜„

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        stefx
        last edited by

        Hi Tig,
        Thank you for your tutorial...
        managing the number of segments is working...!
        In my last attempts I see the ribs are really thick.....see the screenshot... 😞
        basically I cannot have the same result of your first post in this topic..

        any suggestion?


        Schermata 2010-08-27 a 13.29.40.png

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          d12dozr
          last edited by

          Stefx, the ribs should be exactly the same size as your square(profile/face) on the ground, so maybe make your profile smaller?

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            Ditto.
            If you look in the picture in the first topic the face is quite tiny compared to the rib spacing...
            The cross-section of the ribs will be made to match the face.
            Scale it smaller if needed...
            Small face >>> thin ribs
            Big face >>> fat ribs
            Face long in Y [green] >>> 'tall' ribs
            Face long in X [red] >>> 'wide' ribs
            etc πŸ˜’

            TIG

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              joebamber
              last edited by

              hello TIG ! - I'm trying to make a double curved mesh with only square faces.

              With 'extrusion by rails'; if more than 1 rail is used; erasing coplanar edges (in the post curve production) cannot make the faces square and do not delete coplanar edges.

              Do you get this too? (sorry if this another noobie error with these tools)

              Joe

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
                last edited by

                Hey Joe,

                Those lines aren't coplaner so they won't delete without deleting the adjoining faces as well

                To make a quad, you need at least two of the edges to be parallel. With complex curved surfaces like you're trying create, very rarely will a quad happen and even then, they're sporadically located throughout the mesh.

                Why do you need quads though if you don't mind me asking?

                dotdotdot

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                  joebamber
                  last edited by

                  Am trying to get quads so I can use *Paracloud for applying components across a mesh in sketchup, though if I use triangles, I get less control over the application of these components. I could always use soap and skin plugin, and then free-form, but was just wondering if it was possible with TIGs tools, as the curves are more accurate.

                  Joe

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                    stefx
                    last edited by

                    Tig and the other guys,
                    sorry for the late!
                    Thank you for all your help!
                    trying with small faces, it is working as I need.

                    Stefx

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                      lapx
                      last edited by

                      Hello Tig,

                      Will this work with a circle face and diagonal like the lattice by rail. Lattice by rail allows the diagonal. I notice the diagonal dialogue is not a choice with the rail by face.
                      Is this correct? I would like to have pipes that cross diagonal to each other with glassin between.

                      Thanks

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        No... but you can use the EEbyRailsToLattice > diagonal edges... and then use the results to extrude the circular face along those paths [tip: add a cpoint at its center and select that too].Capture.PNG
                        The are also other tools line 'Lines2cyl' or 'PipeAlongPath'that could do the second step in a slightly different way...

                        TIG

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                          lapx
                          last edited by

                          Thanks Tig,
                          I got the diagonals from the EEbyrailstolattice but got lost At EEbyface. I would post a screen shot but I got a bugsplat error. Do I explode both sets if diagonals and then use eebyface? When I used eebyface it made the rails orthagonal. I did try the linsetocylinder and got that to worked. I missing one of your steps.

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            You make two groups of diagonals with EEbyRailsToLattice- one for for the two 'directions' - which vary depending on the picked order of profiles/rails.
                            Edit one groped set of diagonals and you'll find that the curves are also individually grouped.
                            Select all of the curve-groups and explode them so that the curves are now in the group's context.
                            Now you can use all of those curves with EEbyFace - HOWEVER, just before that you need to edit>copy the circular face and a center cpoint and edit>paste-in-paste them inside the same context as the curves.
                            Now 'select all' and run EEbyFace to make one set of diagonal 'tubes' using those curves.
                            Now, simply repeat the whole thing for the other direction diagonal set of curves...
                            Finally selected the four profile/rails curves and used those for the third EEbyFace using the original circular face + cpoint to make perimeter 'tubes'! πŸ€“

                            TIG

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                              lapx
                              last edited by

                              Ok, I'm inside a group of exploded rails with a circle and point. How do I select the rails after the command prompts to select them?
                              If i put them inside the group of exploded curves w the circle and point, it will break the perimeter curves in itty bitty lines and does not work.

                              Thanks Tig! sorry for my density πŸ˜‰


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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                You have the two sets of diagonal curves in separate groups [the curves should be exploded from their individual subgroups].
                                Process each set in turn.
                                You first add the circle and cpoint into the group [you are in the group-edit?].
                                Now Edit>SelectAll.
                                Everything inside the group is selected.
                                Now run EEbyFace, answer 'Yes' to continue when it tells you that the curves are 'in bits', and the circle is extruded along each curve.
                                Repeat for the other set of curves.
                                Do a similar operation of the profile/rail curves if you want edge tubes.
                                You CAN explode the groups etc together IF you want to, then select all and intersect together to form 'cuts' as the tubes pass through each other... πŸ€“

                                TIG

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                                  lapx
                                  last edited by

                                  Thanks Tig, I got it! I was using the wrong command when I should have been using EEbyFace not faces not face and rail, but "extrude edges by face" . duh! 😳

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                                    devran
                                    last edited by

                                    Please help!!! "Extrude Edges by Lines" does not work with edges and circles as the path. The Edge does not rotate at the center of the circle.

                                    http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5513/extrudeedgesbypath.jpg

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      Devran

                                      You seem to be using a different tool than the one for this forum - EEbyEdges doing what it does !

                                      If you want to extrude a circle [with a face] along a path there's the built-in FollowMe, or perhaps FollowMeAndKeep, or my EEbyRailsByFace etc...

                                      Please explain a bit more, and/or post a SKP...

                                      TIG

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                                        devran
                                        last edited by

                                        Sorry You are right, I should have used "Extrude edges by rails Forum" I will Post it there again...

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                                          ibmutt
                                          last edited by

                                          I have been looking for years for plugins to do the things like what you are doing TIG. You rock!!!!!! Thank you for all that you do!

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                                            Sparda
                                            last edited by

                                            Hello, I'm new here. I have been using that plugin for my own personal projects until at one point, I encounter a problem. I noticed this plugin can only work with any types of curves or arcs. But what about 2 curve/arcs and 2 straight that would get me what I wanted to build something like the waffle pattern.
                                            good example is:
                                            https://imgur.com/a/c6GTFmz

                                            @Tig, Can you improve the Extrude edges by rails by faces tool to have unlimit feature where i can use either straight line or arc/curve lines?

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