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    • H Offline
      Hecky001
      last edited by

      Hello there i am here to report a crash of my sketchup 8 pro when using Extrude Edges by Rails by Face

      it crashes only when the profile its segmented more than 12 times for example if a segment a circle 13 times it will crash the sketchup a bug splat but when i segment circles below 12 it does the job fine can someone please tell me whats going on

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        Manijeh
        last edited by

        I have just installed this plugin through plugin store tool bar's autoinstall.
        I watched the video on youtube and followed step by step. but the tools didn't work for me.
        Is there any way there could be a more detailed video tutorial preferably with audio?
        Also am I missing something in the operations and or installation of this tool?
        Thanks for your response.

        Manijeh

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          perper
          last edited by

          No toolbar

          Can anyone assist me?

          I have downloaded the TIG Extrude tools to SketchUp.
          Unfortunately I can not find the toolbar..

          Pls help

          Best regards
          Per

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            @perper said:

            No toolbar.
            Can anyone assist me?
            I have downloaded the TIG Extrude tools to SketchUp.
            Unfortunately I can not find the toolbar..
            You said you downloaded the RBZ.
            You have NOT said you have installed it !

            So if you haven't...
            Window > Preferences > Extensions > Install... button...
            Choose the Plugin's RBZ and answer in the affirmative to any questions...
            NOTE: if you installed it with the SketchUcation PluginStore Toolset's dialog within SketchUp itself it should Auto-Install.

            Assuming it is installed...
            Look in the v2015 "Extensions" menu [called "Plugins" in ALL pre-v2015 SketchUps] for "Extrusion Tools..." submenu items...
            Are they there ?
            Also check that the "Extrusion Tools" Toolbar is activated...

            If none of this works come back. 😕

            TIG

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              logan683
              last edited by

              Sketchup 2015 Pro

              Whenever I extrude an edge, by any means, and save, it undoes the extrusion and will continue to undo every time I save. It acts just like Ctrl-Z whenever I hit Ctrl-S, and it crashes occasionally.
              Thank you. It was working fine.

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                logan683
                last edited by

                Ok, I figured it out. Extrude Tools have a conflict with SUSolid plugin. I really need both. I am emailing the dev of SUSolid now. Is there anything I can send you to check on your end? Thank you.

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
                  last edited by

                  You could help us help you if you posted the SKP file you're working with. Otherwise we'll just be guessing.

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                    Fabtins
                    last edited by

                    I'm new to this tool. I was just using the 'Extrude edges by Rails by face' tool when i realised that the ribs produced in my model by selecting the Profiles and rails option were quite different from the one shown in the tutorial. They weren't so smooth or so detailed but rather plain and conflicting. I'm attaching the pictures of the required rib formation titled 'A' versus the ribs produced in my model titled 'B'. I know the two shapes are quite different but that doesn't explain why the rib designs are different.

                    Can anybody tell me what must've brought about this change? Is there some change in settings that you must do to change the rib type? My extrude tools version is extrude tools V2.7. Any help will be appreciated


                    A


                    B

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Posting the SKPs would be a great help [purge first].
                      It's hard to tell what shape you have defined for the extrusion face[s].
                      the orientation of that face and the order you pick rails/profiles in the 'mesh' all affect the result...

                      TIG

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                        Fabtins
                        last edited by

                        Here's my sketchup file in the attachment. As I said, i've used the 'extude edges by Rails by Face' tool here on the shape but the produced mesh doesn't quite resemble the one shown in tutorial. Please review and suggest what has gone wrong. Is it a different version of extrude tools than the one i've been using? P.S. the version i'm working with is v2.7


                        Extrudetools.skp

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          The profile used in example 'A' was not a rectangle ?
                          It looks like a '+' shape, or a 4-pointed star ??
                          The 'B' profile is a rectangle and it is sized quite near the curve segment size too, so there are much smaller 'gaps'.
                          Try again with another size and/or shape for the profile face...
                          Also perhaps scale the face and the four path curves x10, extrude. then scale down - otherwise you might get into the 'tiny geometry' issues - where some edges approach zero length and get ignored by SketchUp as its tolerance is 1/1000", and faces are missed out etc - even Bugsplatting...

                          TIG

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                            Fabtins
                            last edited by

                            I've used the '4-pointed star' shape in this sketchup file sir. This shape, i've scaled and there are adequate gaps but the results are drastically different. The mesh formed isn't at all the same.
                            Also there is the persisting issue of mesh design. It's still rather plain compared to the elaborate and realistic design formed in your tutorial.
                            Thanks


                            Extude tools 2.skp

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                            • TIGT Offline
                              TIG Moderator
                              last edited by

                              What is made is what's to be expected using the profile and paths in your example SKP.
                              I still can't understand what you think it should do 😕
                              The shape of the face determines the extrusion's cross-section.
                              The cpoint [guide-point] selected with the face determines its setting out relative to the path [if included, otherwise the face's bounds.center is used].
                              The number of segments in the curves forming the path determine the number of ribs etc...
                              To change that... before 'welding the parts into a curve use 'divide' [context-menu] on selected edges to subdivide them, then weld all into a curve - that way a long straight run of edges can be split into several extrusions...

                              Incidentally, I did not make the 'tutorial' video to which you keep referring - Rich did...

                              TIG

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                                AcesHigh
                                last edited by

                                @fabtins said:

                                I've used the '4-pointed star' shape in this sketchup file sir. This shape, i've scaled and there are adequate gaps but the results are drastically different. The mesh formed isn't at all the same.
                                Also there is the persisting issue of mesh design. It's still rather plain compared to the elaborate and realistic design formed in your tutorial.
                                Thanks

                                4 pointed star shape??? You mean, a RECTANGLE? Like you selected the Polygon Tool Shape and input 4 for four sides... which obviously results in a square? Then you scaled it so it became a RECTANGLE???

                                you know... I do not suppose is just a coincidence that the shape you used as a profile... the "4-pointed star" (also known in indo-european languages as rectangle) is the same shape actually used as a PROFILE in the rails, as shown in this image

                                http://i.imgur.com/rFAtZn3.jpg

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                                  AcesHigh
                                  last edited by

                                  behold... using a different face shape... it resulted in different rails and profiles!

                                  http://i.imgur.com/r6QBo7N.jpg

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                                  • Dave RD Offline
                                    Dave R
                                    last edited by

                                    @aceshigh said:

                                    @fabtins said:

                                    I've used the '4-pointed star' shape in this sketchup file sir.

                                    4 pointed star shape??? You mean, a RECTANGLE?

                                    Huh. You learn something every day. I never knew a rectangle could be called a 4-pointed star.

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                                      pbacot
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                                      I think of this for "star".


                                      Screen Shot 2015-07-03 at 4.57.30 PM.png

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                                      • Dave RD Offline
                                        Dave R
                                        last edited by

                                        That's what I thought, too. Hmmm....

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                                          AcesHigh
                                          last edited by

                                          Yes, that would be my guess too. However, there is no shape like that at all in the file he shared with us. He used the rectangle as the shape.

                                          So I can only guess "four pointed star" is a weird Google Translation from "rectangle" in his original language, whatever language that is. (probably not indo-european)

                                          I can´t think of another reason for him to say he wanted a four pointed star shape when there is none in his Sketchup file.

                                          IF textures were not embedded on Sketchup files, I would think that he had a 4 Pointed Star texture on that rectangle, and expected the plugin to extrude the shape of the bitmap...

                                          edit: hovering the mouse over his nickname, it shows his name (Pranjal) which I guess is from India. There shouldn´t be such difference from Hindi to english for his word for "rectangle" to be translated as "4 pointed star".

                                          So I really do not know... maybe there was a four pointed star bitmap on that rectangle?

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                                            Fabtins
                                            last edited by

                                            Thank you gentlemen! I guess that answers my queries. As i said in my first post i m pretty much a newbee when it comes to extrude tools or for that matter sketchup in general. I hadn't known that the shape of the flat face had any bearing on the profile in the rails(Thought it was just supposed to be that i.e., a flat face nothing more) or that if we divide the number of segments of the curve edge then it affects the number of ribs as well. Thanks a lot. 😄
                                            Incidentally, the 'four pointed star' thing wasn't my production. I was merely quoting what line of terms TIG had used previously referring to example 'A'. Note that y'all, if you will. As you deftly pointed out Aceshigh, the rectangle term is 'indo'-european AND assuming I am an Indian, i'm the last person to harbour any doubts about what a rectangle(a polygon enclosed by four sides at right angles to each other) or a star(a polygon with sides cutting each other so as to form a star shaped figure)mean. 😉

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