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    • D Offline
      D0me
      last edited by

      Hi Gaieus

      I'm tempted to download SU pro to test these cool features but 8 Hours is a short time so I would have to allocated enough time for me to make full use of the 8 Hours that's allows.

      Thanks for printing the model for me but is it possible to print it out in the following way.

      I require both the brown and grey dome only. The printout is not the section cut but the model itself.
      Both domes are required from a Top and Bottom view of only 2 slices of each dome with the hidden geometry on. The 2 slices are the slice with the entrance and one of the back slices. I have attached an image of the brown dome as an example indicating which portion of the dome I require.

      Brown Dome + Hidden Geomatry Top.jpg
      Brown Dome + Hidden Geomatry Bottom.jpg

      Thanks for your help.
      Much appreciated
      Regards
      D0me

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      • GaieusG Offline
        Gaieus
        last edited by

        @chrisglasier said:

        ...if you really want to use a grid, it should overlay the model so that you can see where it intersects the models lines...

        Here is a version with the grid lines overlaid.

        Dome_HiddenGeometryGridOverlay.pdf

        @unknownuser said:

        Both domes are required from a Top and Bottom view of only 2 slices of each dome with the hidden geometry on. The 2 slices are the slice with the entrance and one of the back slices. I have attached an image of the brown dome as an example indicating which portion of the dome I require.

        Hm... I don't really get this I am afraid. What you write is not exactly what's in the pictures.

        As for the eight hours - they are pure, real working hours so it doesn't mean that if you install the program in the morning and go for a walk, it will expire by the afternoon.

        Gai...

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        • chrisglasierC Offline
          chrisglasier
          last edited by

          V quick.

          Looking at it makes me dizzy!

          With TBA interfaces we can analyse what is to be achieved so that IT can help with automation to achieve it.

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            On the topic of Volume...
            There are two volume tools - v1.8 is a slow but reliable method, using 'integration' of slices - this has 'accuracy' settings; and v2 which uses a whizzy topographical method that's quick but requires a 'perfect' set of 'manifold' faces enclosing the volumes...
            You are trying the 'sensitive' one !
            Your shapes must have internal 'partitions' which it won't like...
            Make a copy of what you need to get the volume from, off to one side.
            Explode the parts and re-group them into one thing, to get its volume...
            Try using Xray mode, section-cuts etc to find, access and remove internal 'partitions'.
            Also ensure there are no 'holes in the faces as the volume will 'leak out' [just like water would] and fail...
            If you can publish your skp I'll look at it...

            TIG

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              I need the SKP not a PDF ?
              πŸ˜’

              TIG

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                @d0me said:

                Hi Gaieus

                Ok lets break my request down.

                Can we firstly slice my entrance in equal halves where the seams of the 2 dome slice and entrance meet?
                Then, if we look at the dome from the front view, I need the 1 slice of the entrance and the 1 back slice of the behind that same entrance printed with their hidden geometry on.
                I have attached a Jpeg of the 2 slices I require including the entrance. Once the entrance is split, it will make a little more sense.

                Sorry dome I still do not get it. Are you talking about section cuts? Why don't you place one (just roughly) and orient your model in a view I can understand and can do the printout?

                Gai...

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                • D Offline
                  D0me
                  last edited by

                  Hi Gaieus

                  Ok lets break my request down.

                  Can we firstly slice my entrance in equal halves where the seams of the 2 dome slice and entrance meet?
                  Then, if we look at the dome from the front view, I need the 1 slice of the entrance and 1 back slice of behind that same entrance printed with their hidden geometry on.
                  I have attached a Jpeg of the 2 slices I require including the entrance. Once the entrance is split, it will make a little more sense.

                  Brown Dome (2 Slices).jpg

                  TIG, I have attached my latest version of the model which Gaieus has helped me build.

                  Thanks guys
                  Regards
                  D0me


                  Dome V2 Final redone.pdf

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                  • D Offline
                    D0me
                    last edited by

                    Hi Guys

                    TIG: Sorry about that. I got so many files for this model that i get confused.
                    SKP is now attached.

                    Gaieus: It's not the Section Cut, its the dome model itself. I have printed what I require to PDF. Currently its on a 1:5 scale. I require it to be on a 1:1 scale.

                    Thanks
                    Regards
                    D0me


                    Dome V2 Final redone.skp


                    Dome + Hidden Geometry.pdf

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
                      last edited by

                      And in this perspective format or orthogonal? (Perspective cannot be printed to scale). Also, no grey dome then? (Above you said brown and grey). And in colour or B&W?

                      Gai...

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                      • D Offline
                        D0me
                        last edited by

                        Hi Gaieus

                        Orthogonal is fine. The Grey dome will need to be printed on a separate page. Black and White is perfect.

                        Edit: Sorry Gaieus, can I ask for 1 more favor? Can you give me 3 views of each of the domes. I need the Right , Back and Top view if possible.

                        Thanks
                        Regards
                        D0me

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Here's a SKP with the Volumes done by Integration.
                          I separated the colored parts. I thought you might want them like that ?
                          There's also a total...
                          I had to combine the pieces and then remove some internal partitions etc...Dome V2 Final redone [Volume].pngDome V2 Final redone [Volume].skp

                          TIG

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                          • chrisglasierC Offline
                            chrisglasier
                            last edited by

                            So TIG it seems you made Stinkie's head gear as well ...
                            Anim Device005.png

                            With TBA interfaces we can analyse what is to be achieved so that IT can help with automation to achieve it.

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                            • GaieusG Offline
                              Gaieus
                              last edited by

                              Okay, here is one of the Brown dome on 3 pages. It actually fit on an A1 paper but the bigger ones will not fit for sure. Shall I rather export this on an A3 instead?


                              Dome_HiddenGeometry3View.pdf

                              Gai...

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                              • D Offline
                                D0me
                                last edited by

                                Hi Gaieus

                                Thanks for printing me the Requested views. Sorry, forgot to tell to turn off the Grids. Please can you reprint it and you mentioned that you can print it to A3. That should be fine as long as it fits 1:1 scale on this page size.

                                I'm sorry to trouble you again but I need some other prints as well as some adjustments to the model if possible.

                                Print outs are as follows.

                                1. As mentioned above, the brown dome you just printed but with the Grids Turned off.

                                2. The Grey dome to be printed the same as the brown dome.

                                3. The entrance of the dome (front view) in the same manner that the domes in (1) and (2) have been printed. Difference here is there is only one view unlike the domes which have 3 views.

                                4. Lastly, this next request refers to the section cut. Is it possible to print out on separate pages, each dome separately on a 1:1 scale. I have attached an image of what I mean.

                                Below is the Brown Dome Only
                                Brown Dome Only Section Cut.jpg

                                Below is the gray Dome only.
                                Gray Dome Only Section Cut.jpg

                                With regards to the adjustments, if its too complicated and may affect the dimensions by large amounts, then we can skip it and I will work around it.

                                I have attached an image of what adjustments I would like to make.
                                Section Cut Adjustment.jpg

                                Thanks
                                Regards
                                D0me

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
                                  last edited by

                                  No, sorry, I really meant A0 no A3. That's a typo. So this smallest dome can fit on an A1 but the rest won't. So the question is - shall I print this one on an A1 and the others on A0'a or should all be the same (A0) instead?

                                  Gai...

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                                  • D Offline
                                    D0me
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi Gaieus

                                    All can be on A0.

                                    Thanks
                                    Regards
                                    D0me

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                                    • GaieusG Offline
                                      Gaieus
                                      last edited by

                                      OK, I will do then.
                                      πŸ˜‰

                                      Gai...

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                                      • D Offline
                                        D0me
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi Gaieus

                                        How are you?

                                        Just thought I'd pop in and see how those print outs are coming along.

                                        Thanks
                                        Regards
                                        D0me

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                                        • GaieusG Offline
                                          Gaieus
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi d0ome,

                                          Sorry but indeed I totally abandoned you. 😳

                                          I promise I will do those exports but I had a whole sh***tload of things to deal with during the week-end (and still have things to do).

                                          Gai...

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                                          • D Offline
                                            D0me
                                            last edited by

                                            @gaieus said:

                                            Hi d0ome,

                                            Sorry but indeed I totally abandoned you. 😳

                                            I promise I will do those exports but I had a whole sh***tload of things to deal with during the week-end (and still have things to do).

                                            No Problem Gaieus.
                                            Whenever you have the time.

                                            I just realized a huge error of mine. The 48mm radius pipe in the centre of my dome was supposed to be 24mm radius. I should have paid more attention to math class because I just confused radius and diameter.

                                            I tried all morning to resolve it but couldn't entirely. I managed to fill the 48mm bunghole but now I need to fuse it back with my dome pieces and then intersect my 24mm pipe.

                                            The other solution is, as my usual self. I can redo the domes, intersect with 24mm pipe and then copy the entrance from my current model though I don't really know how to put this into practice on SU. Personally, the entrace is most time consuming, so redoing the dome will be easiest.

                                            Well these are the only 2 solutions I can think of but I guess you have something in mind that's less complicated and time consuming.

                                            Look forward to hearing from you

                                            Thanks
                                            Regards
                                            D0me

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