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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      If the two laves don't meet coplanar-ly you will see the hidden seam BUT to keep the two halves as separate mirrored component instances so you only have to adjust one in the future, you can use Jean Lemire's trick - extend the curved surface at the seam so that it goes beyond the join and ends up inside - below other faces. Now smooth [erase+ctrl] the edges that's at the seam location and the seam should now look smoothed rather than hidden...

      TIG

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      • EdsonE Offline
        Edson
        last edited by

        have a look at this tutorial. i am not sure who the author is (although i think it is boofredlay).


        HiddenSeamTutorial~.skp

        edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
        http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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        • J Offline
          Jonas Mac
          last edited by

          Thanks for the feedback .
          I went through the Eric Lay tutorial as suggested . I accept I am a newbie but there were quite a number of steps to remove the offending lines .
          However I did learn from the tutorial the value of hiding parts while accessing /editing other parts , rather than moving pieces out of the way , which leads to inaccuracy .

          I would still like to ask - If one is modeling a complex object with lots of internal parts ,say an engine or suchlike , would you still adopt the approach of modeling half and mirroring it to form the complete object . I am thinking that when you lift up the bonnet all the objects which straddle the joint would have lines through them unless you carried out the procedure for hiding the joint on each of the objects .

          JM

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            This can be useful after some explodes and before some groups /components
            You have a plug who erase all no necessary internal faces !
            See the wikii post and follow 😉

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • EdsonE Offline
              Edson
              last edited by

              @jonas mac said:

              Thanks for the feedback .
              I went through the Eric Lay tutorial as suggested . I accept I am a newbie but there were quite a number of steps to remove the offending lines .
              However I did learn from the tutorial the value of hiding parts while accessing /editing other parts , rather than moving pieces out of the way , which leads to inaccuracy .

              I would still like to ask - If one is modeling a complex object with lots of internal parts ,say an engine or suchlike , would you still adopt the approach of modeling half and mirroring it to form the complete object . I am thinking that when you lift up the bonnet all the objects which straddle the joint would have lines through them unless you carried out the procedure for hiding the joint on each of the objects .

              JM

              i would say never move objects in order to edit others. do use the feature of hiding the rest of the model while editing a group/component if you need some "privacy".

              it is good practice to model half an object and mirroring it to create a component that has simmetrical sides. yes you will always have to proceed like indicated in the tutorial in order for the joint not to show.

              edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
              http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
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                Edson is right - I have shortcuts set up to toggle View>ComponentEdit>HideRestOfModel and View>ComponentEdit>HideSimilarComponents - sometimes you'll want to see things to snap to in the model or even in the other instances of that component, but often it's much easier to have everything else hidden... it makes component and group editing, with any associated orbiting and zooming etc a much happier experience.
                ☀

                TIG

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                • J Offline
                  Jonas Mac
                  last edited by

                  Edson - "i would say never move objects in order to edit others."
                  From my limited experience that sounds like a good rule to follow and will help me avoid some of the problems I have encountered so far - Thanks

                  Tig - With reference to your post on 20th I have to confess I did'nt understand your reference to the Jean Lemires trick or what you were advocating .
                  The toggle for viewing & hiding components you suggest in your last post seems to be just what I am looking for when I want to work on particular components - Thanks

                  JM

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
                    last edited by

                    @jonas mac said:

                    ...Tig... The toggle for viewing & hiding components you suggest in your last post seems to be just what I am looking for when I want to work on particular components - Thanks

                    JM

                    In this case, you could even assign a shortcut to these functions (otherwise they are rather hard to access). If you go to Window > Preferences > Schrtcuts, you can find these commands and add anything (I use Ctrl+H and Shift+Ctrl+H as with the H I can remember easier).
                    Sometimes you need the neighbouring geometry for reference and inference so it is good to have an easy access to toggle them.

                    Gai...

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Here's a seam hiding example...HidingSeams.png

                      TIG

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                      • david_hD Offline
                        david_h
                        last edited by

                        For Me, I just Hide the edges along the seam. It doesn't display, but when you turn View Hidden Geometry, you can still edit. See if that works for you.

                        D

                        If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                        • A Offline
                          Alleyviper
                          last edited by

                          I make very complex models using the model one half, copy, scale to -1, put two halves together method. I have alot of curves in some of my models and SU doesn't like to join them automaticly for me after I explode the two groups. To get around this, I explode the two groups, select everything, context click, then select "intersect selected". Then, for the most part, I can go through and erase the joint lines.

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                          • Jean LemireJ Offline
                            Jean Lemire
                            last edited by

                            Hi folks.

                            This is the file I posted at the beginning of november 2009.

                            Use the scene tabs to discover the trick.

                            Best regards.


                            Hiding and smoothing junction line.skp

                            Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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