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    • E Offline
      Ecuadorian
      last edited by

      Ok, here's my try with Twilight:

      I used a very, very darkened HDR as background so the light coming from the LEDs would be the focus of the image. This caused the problem I had already foreseen because I've experienced it many times when taking real photos: If you lower the exposure until you see clearly the shape of the LEDs, the rest of the scene is too dark:

      Exposure = 1

      And if you rise the exposure until the rest of the scene looks better, the LEDs themselves become overexposed.

      Exposure = 2

      Of course, I could have used a brigther HDR background from the very start (Duh!), but I want to make a point here, so please bear with me.

      I saved the render as an HDR and opened it in the free program Picturenaut, which is a very handy tonemapper, HDR creator, HDR<->EXR converter, etc. I used a "photoreceptor" type tonemapping with these settings:
      PictureNaut settings.jpg

      And here's the result:
      Tonemapped with PictureNaut.jpg
      I could have chosen a higher saturation level but I like how it looks.

      So, which one do you prefer?

      -Miguel Lescano
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      • C Offline
        Chris_at_Twilight
        last edited by

        Your second image looks most realistic to me... LEDs are often overexposed in photos.
        By the way, what kind of material did you use? The LEDs themselves look really good.

        http://www.TwilightRender.com

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        • E Offline
          Ecuadorian
          last edited by

          Well, in the reference picture I linked to I noticed that LED light comes from:

          • A small disc inside the casing, which seems to be the source.
          • Total internal reflection.
          • Sub-Surface Scattering.

          So I used the SSS Rubber Ball template (which by default has IOR = 1.4, which seemed adequate after reading the first posts here), made it completely clear with no color, and rendered it with simple MLT (aka "Easy 09"). Perhaps I could have gotten better results with Bi-directional MLT (Easy 10).

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
            last edited by

            @ecuadorian said:

            Cool reference photo. It would be even cooler to have a LED model like this one (wink, wink).
            http://www.otherthings.com/blog/images/led_throwies_small.jpg

            Nice reference photo.
            I had a bunch of LED's next to me when I was trying this out earlier. Kept hot-wiring them to a battery until they got hot.

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            • E Offline
              Ecuadorian
              last edited by

              Closer observation of LEDs reveals that only a part of the plastic is actually lit, so here's an update.
              closeup4.jpg
              In reality, the lit part starts with a conical shape; I'll try that tomorrow.

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              • EarthMoverE Offline
                EarthMover
                last edited by

                Miguel...the new one looks better, IMO. I think the "cone of shame" added a lot of realism. Care to post the model?

                Here's an attempt with a green LED. Not really happy with it. I used a tiny Vray sphere lighting in each of the LED's. I tried an emitter plane, but it looks crappy. Used a soft water SSS material for the bulb casing. Took forever to render the 202 lights!


                l.e.d.jpg

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                • R Offline
                  rev3rse
                  last edited by

                  OMG!! A Point-Light for any led, it's a rendering nightmare... 😮

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
                    last edited by

                    @rev3rse said:

                    OMG!! A Point-Light for any led, it's a rendering nightmare... 😮

                    Not if it's just a handful of LED for close ups.

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                    • olisheaO Offline
                      olishea
                      last edited by

                      i think majid's and earthmover's LEDS are most convincing. majid captured that falloff that you get with LEDS...they act like mini spotlights (well the one on my keyring does anyway). So I imagine loading an IES will work well.

                      oli

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                      • E Offline
                        Ecuadorian
                        last edited by

                        OK, this time I modeled a tiny metalic "cone of shame" (he he he) around an even tinier emitter, to better simulate the light source in a LED.
                        LED Closeup SU.jpg

                        I'm not sure if I like this image better than the previous one:
                        closeup5.jpg

                        Different exposure:
                        overexposed.jpg

                        EDIT: Added the model with the cone.


                        LED Closeup cone.zip

                        -Miguel Lescano
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                        • A Offline
                          Aidus
                          last edited by

                          Here is mine:
                          Test Led
                          Transparent materials - real glass and that's the only correct material here 😄

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                          • majidM Offline
                            majid
                            last edited by

                            this is my try.sketchup + KT and also the result is a photoshop combination.
                            Also you may try it(unzip and load the KT file, attached)


                            spot light added and lit(MLT, BPT)


                            no light but sky (MLT, BPT)


                            combination and adjusted , using photoshop


                            unzip and then open in KT, 😉 cheers

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                            • Al HartA Offline
                              Al Hart
                              last edited by

                              First try

                              led1.jpg

                              (I know I am a little slower at getting this done than some of you. Actually we found a bug where we were processing curved light emitters too slowly, so this helped fix up the software as well)

                              Al Hart

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                              • EscapeArtistE Offline
                                EscapeArtist
                                last edited by

                                Dang. Majid, you beat me to it. I should've checked this thread before building my LED. Oh well, here it is anyway. Feel free to do what you will with it. It's a bit overboard detail-wise, I even threw in a few air inclusions.

                                Error 404 (Not Found)!!1

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                                I based it on this picture:

                                http://scorpiontheater.com/images/LED_Closeup.jpg


                                LED.jpg


                                LED.jpg

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                                • F Offline
                                  fymoro
                                  last edited by

                                  A quick try (10 minutes) with Vray for SU first version... 😄


                                  led fymoro.jpg

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                                  • R Offline
                                    Rico91
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi all,
                                    my first post on this forum today!
                                    This is my render of the L.E.D. Lighting:

                                    http://lh4.ggpht.com/_rMc47FEl0fA/SwhweInvFLI/AAAAAAAABz4/TOEACiq_BG4/Led_SUcation_2.jpg

                                    [img:y90a5vdg]http://lh5.ggpht.com/_rMc47FEl0fA/Sro-DozMGPI/AAAAAAAABwU/zZsLbdpwWAs/forum_onderschrift_r3d_30pxh.jpg[/img:y90a5vdg] [url:y90a5vdg]http://www.R3Design.nl[/url:y90a5vdg]

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                                    • majidM Offline
                                      majid
                                      last edited by

                                      Ok mate, I tried to keep and respect your level of details, hope you like it 😉 (distort correction and a bit of bluring , by PS )


                                      1117Web.jpg

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                                      • EscapeArtistE Offline
                                        EscapeArtist
                                        last edited by

                                        @majid said:

                                        Ok mate, I tried to keep and respect your level of details, hope you like it 😉 (distort correction and a bit of bluring , by PS )

                                        Oh, that is really cool. Nice job. What renderer?

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                                        • EscapeArtistE Offline
                                          EscapeArtist
                                          last edited by

                                          Nice job. I used KT as well, gotta work on my materials. Only thing about KT is that it doesn't do volumetric light beams, so I got the same result as you did in your red LEDs; a bright surface light, but nothing "inside" the LED.

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                                          • majidM Offline
                                            majid
                                            last edited by

                                            @escapeartist said:

                                            ...
                                            Oh, that is really cool. Nice job. What renderer?

                                            OK thanx mate , it is KT as usual, nice that u like it

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