Upgrade NotePad++?

thomthom

Does the { ... } syntax work instead of do ... end?

MartinRinehart

Does the { ... } syntax work instead of do ... end?

Yes, but braces are a B to type unless you've spent too many years writing a C-derivative language.

thomthom

Or if you're on a Norwegian Keyboard Layout. Then they are accessed by AltGr+7/0 which is not a friendly key combo. I switch to English layout when I code.

Chris Fullmer

I think you might not need the "do" in there. I don't use that syntax ever, but looking at the Programming Ruby manual, it does not use "do" in its example. Give that a shot,

Chris

PS I use the:
entities.each do |e| ...code... end

syntax

thomthom

Not sure about other non-English layouts, but Norwegian layout sure isn't friendly for programmers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#Norwegian

Before using Ruby I've used Javascript, PHP, CSS and C# which also use curly bracket - so I got sued to it. But after switching to English layout I feel it flows better. And I like my curly brackets. Though, the very first language I tried was Visual Basic 5.0 - at that time, curly brackets looked dark and mysterious.

Hey! - it is that off-topic time again?

TIG

I always use NotePad++.
You probably noticed I often use stuff like entities.each{|e|...}: I hadn't appreciated that {...} were so difficult to type on some non-English keyboard layouts !

Chris Fullmer

And oddly Martin has not even come by to see if my fix worked for him....I guess he's away from his keyboard this afternoon (or evening or whatever).

Chris

MartinRinehart

@chris fullmer said:

I guess [Martin]'s away from his keyboard this afternoon (or evening or whatever).Chris

Mornings are my thing.

I'm doing the tutorial. for e in entities do ... end strikes me as a lot more beginner-friendly than entities.each { |e| ... }. Guess I'll have to try some editors.

There's an old saying, something like: "An editor a day keeps the productivity away."

Chris Fullmer

But I think your usage of " do" might be incorrect syntax in any ruby editor. It looks like the do should not be included with the for loop.

http://www.ruby-doc.org/docs/ProgrammingRuby/html/tut_expressions.html#UK

Chris

thomthom

hm.. it does look like the do is redundant in for ... in syntax... But Ruby doesn't throw any errors...

MartinRinehart

Tried SciTE. Excellent text editor. High marks for ".properties" files, one per language, that make it easy to customize.

Downside: exact same bug as NotePad++.

The two forms of for/in that load without errors are:


for x in foo do ... end

for x in foo # no do
    ...
end

Jim

That's odd because NPP and Scite (as well as many others) are based in the same editor core Scintilla.

thomthom

Odd? They both use Scintilla and both have the same syntax issues?

Jim

Oh sorry - I mis-read Martin's post.

Chris Fullmer

I guess I would recommend using it without the do, since ruby syntaxd seems to think its redundant (which I do find odd as it does not fit their other loop syntaxes).

Or if it helps, I learned the array.each do |e| ... endmethod first and I was able to understand it fairly quickly. And I hve zero programming experience outside of Ruby for Sketchup.

Another bonus to teaching that method is that all the API uses it, as apposed to the for in end loop. So it might help readers transition into the API smoother. But that is just a thought,

Chris