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    • soloS Offline
      solo
      last edited by

      Attached is a .hdri for you to test, it's the same one I used for the Buddha on previous page.
      Unzip and put in a place you will find (best make a folder for all your future .hdri's)
      Then in the Twilight light editor set up like below.

      1. select sky probe
      2. navigate to the hdri
      3. uncheck the sun and shadows

      Now do a test render and from there you can play with the rotation, textures, etc.

      edit... beaten by Csaba.


      tl setup.jpg


      HDRI

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      • dermotcollD Offline
        dermotcoll
        last edited by

        Thanks guys

        Did that and I didnt see the hdri image anywhere in the model - should I have seen it and if so why didnt I?

        I just did a quick render and there is something showing behind the studio set up - I take it I should have deleted the studio setup if Im using HDRi?

        When you burn your arse - you gotta sit on the blisters!!

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        • soloS Offline
          solo
          last edited by

          The studio is there to block the HDR image and only allow the reflections and illumination of the HDRI, you should be able to see the reflections on any shiny surface now.

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          • dermotcollD Offline
            dermotcoll
            last edited by

            Hi SOlo

            If the studio is there to BLOCKthe HDRi image - how can reflections and iluminations from the HDRi actually effect / affect the model. I am cooking an image in Twilight on Medium now and when its is finished I will post it - if you could point out what you mean on it I would appreciate it. Slainte.

            edit - what a d**khead - I deleted the studio on this one so I am seeing the HDRi image now all around the still life model. I will cook another when its finished and compare and contrast!!


            still life1.jpg

            When you burn your arse - you gotta sit on the blisters!!

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by

              Ah yes, the studio is only needed to

              1. have something "underneath" (otherwise you won't have shadosw cast anywhere) and
              2. to have something that - by reflecting the light coming from anywhere - gives a nice, global illumination to the scene.

              Gai...

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                That's not fair, Chris. If I had been told that I can have too apples, maybe I'de've joined, too!
                😮

                Gai...

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                • dermotcollD Offline
                  dermotcoll
                  last edited by

                  Just to make me feel better Chris!! 👊 - you go and get more apples and a drink - I hope thats vodka in that glass cos I'm ready for it right about now!!!!

                  When you burn your arse - you gotta sit on the blisters!!

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                  • K Offline
                    kwistenbiebel
                    last edited by

                    Thanks for the improved model Solo. 👍
                    A 'render tip of the week' could be: no good renders without good models.

                    Here's my entry:

                    Skindigo:

                    http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r3/kwistenbiebel1/still-life.jpg

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                    • dermotcollD Offline
                      dermotcoll
                      last edited by

                      Okay - here is the second one with the studio back in - let me have it!!

                      Edit - just spotted the dark shadow to the bottom left of the placemat - there are not lights except for the HDRi image so I was wondering what was causing this?


                      still life2.jpg

                      When you burn your arse - you gotta sit on the blisters!!

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        Why is that black stain in the lower left corner of the napkin?

                        Otherwise, as you can see, when there is only the image background is giving light, there are no shadows at all. Yes, I suggested before to disable sunlight but maybe a little bit (just for some subtle shadows) is not bad. You can turn it down to 1-2 from the default 5. Like here (obviously I have polished the apple too much a bit but my mom told me to always carefully wash fruits before eating - also, the glass should not cast that crazy shadow)


                        tets2.jpg

                        Gai...

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                        • Rich O BrienR Online
                          Rich O Brien Moderator
                          last edited by

                          Hi Dermot,

                          Have you set the place mat with a reflective surface?

                          I feel your pain on the 'Learning to Render' front. It's breaking my liathroidi 😉

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                          • dermotcollD Offline
                            dermotcoll
                            last edited by

                            Cheers Gaieus

                            I havent a clue what that dark patch is - I thought it might be something to do with the still life sitting on the sudio set up but the 1st image doesnt have the studio and yet it is still there.

                            I am moving out of the dark already on this subject already thanks to you guys (pardon the pun) I must go away and practice with some simple modwls now just to see how they are affected by lights, positioning etc.

                            Thanks again

                            😉

                            When you burn your arse - you gotta sit on the blisters!!

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                            • K Offline
                              kwistenbiebel
                              last edited by

                              @dermotcoll said:

                              Just to make me feel better Chris!! 👊 - you go and get more apples and a drink - I hope thats vodka in that glass cos I'm ready for it right about now!!!!

                              Not sure about the wodka, but here you go. 😄

                              Bon appetit!

                              Skindigo:

                              http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r3/kwistenbiebel1/still-life-2.jpg

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                              • Al HartA Offline
                                Al Hart
                                last edited by

                                @kwistenbiebel said:

                                Thanks for the improved model Solo. 👍
                                A 'render tip of the week' could be: no good renders without good models.

                                Here's my entry:

                                Wow! good work.

                                You were probably kidding about the rendering tip.

                                Actually, some of the tips are about how to make good renderings without good models.

                                We are assuming that sometimes you are given the model by someone else in the firm, and have to do the best you can with it. I suppose you could always modify it, to replace single face glass window with double face windows. But perhaps not.

                                Al Hart

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                                • dermotcollD Offline
                                  dermotcoll
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi Rich

                                  I dont think so - it is generic soft. Will play about with it and see what I can come up with - as for my liathroidi - they are totally deflated by now. I'm off to me bed to dream of apples and vodka - now theres an idea for a drink!!!!

                                  When you burn your arse - you gotta sit on the blisters!!

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                                  • soloS Offline
                                    solo
                                    last edited by

                                    Nice renders Chris, more apples more fun.

                                    http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/9112/stilllife3.jpg

                                    http://www.solos-art.com

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                                    • P Offline
                                      pav_3j
                                      last edited by

                                      @dermotcoll said:

                                      Hi Rich

                                      I dont think so - it is generic soft. Will play about with it and see what I can come up with - as for my liathroidi - they are totally deflated by now. I'm off to me bed to dream of apples and vodka - now theres an idea for a drink!!!!

                                      sorry to burst your bubble my friend!

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                                      • dermotcollD Offline
                                        dermotcoll
                                        last edited by

                                        Pav - thanks for bursting my bubble- it now matches the state of my liathroidi!!!!

                                        Here is the hird attempt with an omni light directed at the dark patch - as you can see it is still there so its not a shadow - anyone any ideas whats causing it?


                                        still life3.jpg

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                                        • N Offline
                                          notareal
                                          last edited by

                                          dermotcoll, could that be a back-face issue. Looks like surface normals of that tabled are a bit messed.

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                                          • K Offline
                                            kwistenbiebel
                                            last edited by

                                            It seems to be something else. The bright bit is the reflection of the studio setup 'bowl' thing, while the dark part is the top of the HDRI,which is dark at the top.
                                            You might want to load a different HDR or maybe make the 'studio bowl' material darker....(Never use a colour lighter than RGB 220,220,220 for any material)
                                            Also, did you put reflection on that place mat material? If yes, lower it down.

                                            (Could also be too much 'geometry smoothing' going on on that place mat --> lower down 'soften edges')

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