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      AcesHigh
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      why arent these coplanar faces (from two different GoogleEarth imported meshes) merged?

      http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8480/coplanarfaces.jpg

      in this thread, I first tried to use the 2D Boolean plugin. To no use, as we can see here. There are still plenty of coplanar faces where the GoogleEarth imported meshes overlap.

      http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5064/coplanarfaces2.jpg

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      • thomthomT Hors-ligne
        thomthom
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        @aceshigh said:

        why arent these coplanar faces (from two different GoogleEarth imported meshes) merged?

        Can you post the model?
        Also, what are your settings? Remember that CleanUp has options to take into account face normals, material and UV mapping when merging.

        Also, that image seem to illustrate faces occupying the same plane...?

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          AcesHigh
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          @thomthom said:

          @aceshigh said:

          why arent these coplanar faces (from two different GoogleEarth imported meshes) merged?

          Can you post the model?
          Also, what are your settings? Remember that CleanUp has options to take into account face normals, material and UV mapping when merging.

          Also, that image seem to illustrate faces occupying the same plane...?

          no need to upload the model. It happens with any model, when importing several GoogleEarth meshes which overlap.

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          • thomthomT Hors-ligne
            thomthom
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            @aceshigh said:

            @thomthom said:

            @aceshigh said:

            why arent these coplanar faces (from two different GoogleEarth imported meshes) merged?

            Can you post the model?
            Also, what are your settings? Remember that CleanUp has options to take into account face normals, material and UV mapping when merging.

            Also, that image seem to illustrate faces occupying the same plane...?

            no need to upload the model. It happens with any model, when importing several GoogleEarth meshes which overlap.

            Well, I don't see the behaviour, so if I am to check this out I need something to work with.

            And these meshes, do you merge them into one group?

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              AcesHigh
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              @thomthom said:

              @aceshigh said:

              @thomthom said:

              @aceshigh said:

              why arent these coplanar faces (from two different GoogleEarth imported meshes) merged?

              Can you post the model?
              Also, what are your settings? Remember that CleanUp has options to take into account face normals, material and UV mapping when merging.

              Also, that image seem to illustrate faces occupying the same plane...?

              no need to upload the model. It happens with any model, when importing several GoogleEarth meshes which overlap.

              Well, I don't see the behaviour, so if I am to check this out I need something to work with.

              sorry ThomThom, it had happened in every experiment I did before, so I wrongly assumed it would happen in every one. But I did one try with two small pieces and nothing happened (although there were some lost textures in the process)

              So I will upload a SKP file. Thanks for the patience and hard work.

              @unknownuser said:

              And these meshes, do you merge them into one group?

              yup. Merge them into one group, then explode the meshes inside the group. Then CleanUp them. In the file I am sending you, not only some faces were lost when using CleanUp, as some coplanar faces were not merged, so you can see some texture flickering when rotating around.


              experimento2.skp

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              • thomthomT Hors-ligne
                thomthom
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                Also, what are your settings?

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                • thomthomT Hors-ligne
                  thomthom
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                  That model is after CleanUp is run? You got the original?

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                    AcesHigh
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                    @thomthom said:

                    Also, what are your settings?

                    what settings ThomThom? The ones from CleanUp³?

                    everything selected except Geometry to Layer 0, Merge Identical Materials (its two different materials, a bitmap for each imported mesh), so I saw no reason to use it) and Erase Stray Edges.

                    sorry, I didnt keep the original imported meshes. But I will try again with new imported meshes.

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                    • thomthomT Hors-ligne
                      thomthom
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                      Looking at the one you sent, I selected everything and intersected it with itself a few times. CleanUp doesn't clean up faces that partially overlaps. Only faces that fully cover the exact same space as another. After intersecting and then cleaning there was no overlapping.

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                        AcesHigh
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                        here... I copied the two meshes and joined them in a group, exploded them, and used Cleanup. No lost triangles this time, but there are plenty of overlapping triangles. (sometimes they dont appear when viewing in the textured mode, but when you used SHADED mode you will see the overlapping triangles...)

                        of course, the problem gets worse when you have to import even more mesh pieces, as sometimes you have over 3 meshes overlapping.


                        experimento3.skp

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                          AcesHigh
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                          @thomthom said:

                          Looking at the one you sent, I selected everything and intersected it with itself a few times. CleanUp doesn't clean up faces that partially overlaps. Only faces that fully cover the exact same space as another. After intersecting and then cleaning there was no overlapping.

                          I will try that, thanks... however... how can I intersect if they are not solids?

                          ps: I am trying to solve, with CleanUp, about the same problem that made me ask for the "GoogleEarth Meshes boolean subtract" plugin at the topic http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=40555

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                          • thomthomT Hors-ligne
                            thomthom
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                            @aceshigh said:

                            @thomthom said:

                            Looking at the one you sent, I selected everything and intersected it with itself a few times. CleanUp doesn't clean up faces that partially overlaps. Only faces that fully cover the exact same space as another. After intersecting and then cleaning there was no overlapping.

                            I will try that, thanks... however... how can I intersect if they are not solids?

                            ps: I am trying to solve, with CleanUp, about the same problem that made me ask for the "GoogleEarth Meshes boolean subtract" plugin at the topic http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=40555

                            Not intersecting with Solid Tools, but the regular intersect that's been in SU since, ever..? From the context menu, there is Intersect Faces menu item.

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                              AcesHigh
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                              @thomthom said:

                              @aceshigh said:

                              @thomthom said:

                              Looking at the one you sent, I selected everything and intersected it with itself a few times. CleanUp doesn't clean up faces that partially overlaps. Only faces that fully cover the exact same space as another. After intersecting and then cleaning there was no overlapping.

                              I will try that, thanks... however... how can I intersect if they are not solids?

                              ps: I am trying to solve, with CleanUp, about the same problem that made me ask for the "GoogleEarth Meshes boolean subtract" plugin at the topic http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=40555

                              Not intersecting with Solid Tools, but the regular intersect that's been in SU since, ever..?

                              since ever, but I had never seen or used it before 😆

                              anyway, however, intersected it with itself several times, and when I used cleanup³, several triangles were lost, and got some error messages 😢

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                              • thomthomT Hors-ligne
                                thomthom
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                                @aceshigh said:

                                and got some error messages 😢

                                What where the error message?

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                                  AcesHigh
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                                  @thomthom said:

                                  @aceshigh said:

                                  and got some error messages 😢

                                  What where the error message?

                                  something along these lines (not exactly the same because I had to test again, with new Earth imported meshes, so different triangles disappeared, etc)

                                  Results of Validity Check.

                                  CEdge (4234) and CEdge (7926) connect the same 2 vertices - fixed
                                  The plane equation for CFace (4767) is not valid - fixed

                                  35 errors occurred. Please report the error and sample model to the author.

                                  35 - Face merge resulted in lost geometry!

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                                  • sumasterS Hors-ligne
                                    sumaster
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                                    Dear Thomthom Sir,

                                    here you are launch your new Cleanup (3.1.8) — 06 October 2011
                                    • Whats new features you are added ❓

                                    and one problem can you solve in new version

                                    I'm architectural student and import CAD drawing and lock that drawing in sketchup viewport
                                    but when i play / start " Clean With Last Setting " he also cleanup viewport with lock group/component 😮

                                    See here ......

                                    Regular selection

                                    Lock selection

                                    Finally clean every thing .....

                                    And thank you for this tool its very best for me or ever one ...... 😄 😉

                                    I'm very happy with this tool ......

                                    Thank you,
                                    SUmaster

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                                    • thomthomT Hors-ligne
                                      thomthom
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                                      The way CleanUp traverses the model it's tricky to know what is part of a locked group or not. But I'll put it down for investigation.

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                                        sumaster
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                                        Yes thank you .....

                                        Thank you,
                                        SUmaster

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                                          derei
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                                          @thomthom said:

                                          The way CleanUp traverses the model it's tricky to know what is part of a locked group or not. But I'll put it down for investigation.

                                          You can use ruby to check if is locked or not
                                          http://code.google.com/apis/sketchup/docs/ourdoc/group.html#locked?
                                          http://code.google.com/apis/sketchup/docs/ourdoc/componentinstance.html#locked?

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                                          • thomthomT Hors-ligne
                                            thomthom
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                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            @thomthom said:

                                            The way CleanUp traverses the model it's tricky to know what is part of a locked group or not. But I'll put it down for investigation.

                                            You can use ruby to check if is locked or not
                                            http://code.google.com/apis/sketchup/docs/ourdoc/group.html#locked?
                                            http://code.google.com/apis/sketchup/docs/ourdoc/componentinstance.html#locked?

                                            I know, but, I traverse the model by model.definitions.each - which means that I do not know if the parent for the instances I traverse are locked. I could be checking a sub-group of a locked group and .locked? will return false.

                                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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