[Plugin] 2D Tools
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Don't worry TIG my install is not as BU as you fear. Tool palette is now visible and working.
The revelation I needed was the View->Tool Palettes feature in the main menubar... And yes, I do feel stupid for not noticing it before. So many of my plugins activate their tool palettes by default, that I thought there must be some problem with those that don't -- and if they were not absolutely necessary I just ignored 'em and got on with my drawing
My bad -- as you can tell I'm not a deep Sketchup user, I use it only when I have to get something done; so I don't spend a lot of time exploring all the features (though it's on my list of fun things to do when I someday have the time). Kind of like vi -- most people only know the minimum number of commands necessary to do basic text editing, and never explore the huge toolkit lurking within.
So thx for the pointer to the "obvious" menu item! and yes I do generally understand the packaging of plugins, but it's been 6 mo or so since I fooled with them so it's all a bit rusty. I was grasping at any straw to explain what I thought was broken behaviour.
I fear that the remaining mystery may come down to OSX and mouse buttons (or lack of same).
I still can't get the dashed-line tool to do anything. I can select a line (it becomes bolded); the hint at bottom of screen suggests I then right-click in empty space to get a dialogue box. I am sitting at a macbook pro, with cmd-click mapped to right-click (seems to work in x11 apps anyway, xev confirms). I begin to fear that this mapping may be at the X11 level, though I think in previous releases of OSX it was at the System Preferences level. [a little rootling around...]
Damn. No click modifier mapping for 3btn emu in Leopard System Preferences, at least not obviously visible -- maybe with some googling I can find a way to do it. If not, looks like I will have to buy a trackball or 3btn mouse if I want 2dtools to work.
Sorry for the dimness of the original query. My brain is much more engaged with the stuff I'm building (1100 sf of new sails plus spars to match) than with the s'ware I'm using to draw it. Different headspace
ps Actually I don't use dragndrop much unless the app is chained to the OSX GUI; being an old linux geek I prefer mv, cp, tar, etc.
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Resolved
The macbook pro is new to me -- my old laptop was stolen in December 2010. I'm still discovering the differences.
Turns out the new trackpad, aside from being jittery and twitchy (grrr) emulates mouse button 3 -- not 2 for some reason, there is dissatisfied chitchat about this here and there on Apple user groups -- but 3 is emulated with 2 fingers (I will refrain from some obvious jesting).
I can right-click with this builtin mapping, and presto I can now draw coloured and dashed and weighted lines, which is really cool... and it appears I can retroactively style lines drawn with other SU tools such as Arc -- very nice!
My difficulty with 2dtools is now resolved -- and was not a difficulty with 2dtools at all, but with my shallow knowledge of SU.
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@rootlessagrarian said:
Turns out the new trackpad, aside from being jittery and twitchy (grrr) emulates mouse button 3 -- not 2 for some reason, there is dissatisfied chitchat about this here and there on Apple user groups -- but 3 is emulated with 2 fingers (I will refrain from some obvious jesting).
I can right-click with this builtin mapping, and presto I can now draw coloured and dashed and weighted lines, which is really cool... and it appears I can retroactively style lines drawn with other SU tools such as Arc -- very nice!
A word of advice: If you plan to really use SketchUp, go buy an inexpensive PC-style mouse and use it instead of the pad. I have one of these from Logitech.
Do not install the driver software. Just plug it in and go.
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I installed 2D tools (thanks TIG) on my OS X SketchUp Pro trial version but I can't get dashed lines to stay dashed.
I select dashed line style, draw the 2D line (and it looks dashed) but as soon as I double-click to end the line, the line is laid down as solid.
What am I missing?
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@amsketcher said:
I installed 2D tools (thanks TIG) on my OS X SketchUp Pro trial version but I can't get dashed lines to stay dashed.
I select dashed line style, draw the 2D line (and it looks dashed) but as soon as I double-click to end the line, the line is laid down as solid.
What am I missing?Red the instructions again...
Just draw some lines [just make any old lines or curves will do but not guide/clines] - this can be 2Dlines OR standard lines.
NOW you activate the 2D LineStyle tool.
The Status Bar tells you the current settings and other instructions.
Right-click in open-space to get the dialog and set the width/pattern/color as desired.
Now pick on the lines you want 'Styling' they will change to your settings.If a line has no face or two coplanar faces the patterned 'line' is centered on the original.
If a line has one face the patterned 'line' is aligned to the side so it is wholly on the face.
If a line has two non-coplanar faces the patterned 'line' is aligned to one side of it so it is wholly on the face that is most squarely facing the camera - this allows you to 'style' the edges of a cube in 3d...Later you can Select some 'Styled' lines and right-click context-menu and 'Edit' them - a similar dialog appears and you can change width/pattern/color as desired and they will update.
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@amsketcher said:
I installed 2D tools (thanks TIG) on my OS X SketchUp Pro trial version but I can't get dashed lines to stay dashed.
I select dashed line style, draw the 2D line (and it looks dashed) but as soon as I double-click to end the line, the line is laid down as solid.
What am I missing?
If what you're trying to do is draw thing as construction lines, it doesn't work on the Mac.
Here are some tools that will let you use clines on the Mac.
You need to replace the original tools inside the 2DTools folder by these (make backups of the originals!). They are however based on version 4.6 of TIG's tools, but they work fine as far as I know. I don't know of any core modifications done between version 4.6 and 5.0 of these tools and I haven't checked the script to make sure, but it shouldn't be an issue. For Mac users they give you access to all options. For PC users you don't need them (I don't know how the modifier behave, and haven't checked).
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Hmmm. I've used this great plugin many times before but I'm experiencing issues now.
I have a rectangle that I want to fillet. I select the fillet tool, enter the fillet radius, and select my first line. Everything is normal. Then when I select my second, perpendicular line, poof everything disappears.
It deletes everything in the model.TIG, am I doing something wrong? Has anyone else experienced this issue? Are there any known workarounds? I am running Windows XP SP2 and SketchUp 7 if that makes a difference. The weird thing is, chamfer works fine.
It's no big deal if I just fillet it manually. I'm just wondering what I'm doing wrong and what I can do to fix it.
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@unknownuser said:
Hmmm. I've used this great plugin many times before but I'm experiencing issues now.
I have a rectangle that I want to fillet. I select the fillet tool, enter the fillet radius, and select my first line. Everything is normal. Then when I select my second, perpendicular line, poof everything disappears.
It deletes everything in the model.TIG, am I doing something wrong? Has anyone else experienced this issue? Are there any known workarounds? I am running Windows XP SP2 and SketchUp 7 if that makes a difference. The weird thing is, chamfer works fine.
It's no big deal if I just fillet it manually. I'm just wondering what I'm doing wrong and what I can do to fix it.
Nothing's changed recently with the code.
It should work fine with your OS & SUp version too...
A mystery
I don't think it's deleting everything in the model - rather some 'corrupted' geometry is made miles away and the model's extents are knackered...
There's no known workaround because it's not a problem I knew of till now
What size is the rectangle?
What size is the fillet radius?
What units are you using etc ?
Can you post an example SKP where the problem occurs etc...
Without more to go on I can't yet help
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@tig said:
What size is the rectangle?
3'6" by 4"
@tig said:
What size is the fillet radius?
1"
@tig said:
What units are you using etc ?
Imperial. (feet and inches)
@tig said:
Can you post an example SKP where the problem occurs etc...
@tig said:
I don't think it's deleting everything in the model - rather some 'corrupted' geometry is made miles away and the model's extents are knackered...
No, sorry. You're right. It only deletes the rectangle I am working on. About corrupted geometry, I don't know. If I make the rectangle a component first, and edit that, the component boundaries shrink to the size of one that has no entities. I hope I made sense there.
What I mean is, if I go into the model info box after the geometry is deleted, no entities show up. It is truly deleted. -
As you can see I have no issues with 2d filleting - Vista + v7 or v8
Have you tried reinstalling the 2Dtools in case one is somehow corrupted [I can't think how it might be though!].
Have you tried repairing your Sketchup installation in case it's corrupted in some minor way ? -
@tig said:
Have you tried reinstalling the 2Dtools in case one is somehow corrupted [I can't think how it might be though!].
Have you tried repairing your Sketchup installation in case it's corrupted in some minor way ?Reinstalling 2Dtools now. How would I go about repairing my SketchUp installation?
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@unknownuser said:
@tig said:
Have you tried reinstalling the 2Dtools in case one is somehow corrupted [I can't think how it might be though!].
Have you tried repairing your Sketchup installation in case it's corrupted in some minor way ?Reinstalling 2Dtools now. How would I go about repairing my SketchUp installation?
No exactly sure on XP - perhaps someone else can chip in too - on Vista... Exit all apps... Then Control Panel > Programs & Features...
Find Google Sketchup v7 in the list, highlight and click UnInstall/Repair button. When prompted choose Repair and it should run and repair the installation.
If that doesn't work you might need to do a full install - it shouldn't affect any Plugins etc you have installed already... -
@tig said:
@unknownuser said:
@tig said:
Have you tried reinstalling the 2Dtools in case one is somehow corrupted [I can't think how it might be though!].
Have you tried repairing your Sketchup installation in case it's corrupted in some minor way ?Reinstalling 2Dtools now. How would I go about repairing my SketchUp installation?
No exactly sure on XP - perhaps someone else can chip in too - on Vista... Exit all apps... Then Control Panel > Programs & Features...
Find Google Sketchup v7 in the list, highlight and click UnInstall/Repair button. When prompted choose Repair and it should run and repair the installation.
If that doesn't work you might need to do a full install - it shouldn't affect any Plugins etc you have installed already...I found how to do it but it can't find the installer for SketchUp. I must have deleted it. How could I completely reinstall SketchUp 7.1? Is there some place you know that I could download it from?
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Luckily it's linked here http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=315903#p315903
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@tig said:
Luckily it's linked here http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=315903#p315903
Thanks.
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@unknownuser said:
@tig said:
Luckily it's linked here http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=315903#p315903
Thanks.
And do I have to do anything to keep all my plugins, styles, templates, etc.?If you do a 'reinstall' it should keep all of the already added stuff and simply renew the required program files.
To be on the safe side you could always make copies of your Templates, Components, Materials, Styles and Plugins folders etc and then reinstall, after that check if the custom Templates, Scripts etc are still there, if not you have copies to move over.
It's a good idea to have a back-up copy of your custom files/folders in case of a disaster anyway - I suggest you burn a CD/DVD of them and keep it safe for unforeseen problems... -
@tig said:
If you do a 'reinstall' it should keep all of the already added stuff and simply renew the required program files.
But I'm not really reinstalling am I? I'm going from v.7.1 to v.7.1pro trial. I have all the files backed up on DropBox so I should be good.
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The difference between Free and Pro is minimal on the install - they are very similar and the core program parts are the same - it's just that after the time limit is up some v7.1 features no longer work, unless it's fully licensed...
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I reinstalled both 2Dtools and SketchUp but I'm still getting the same thing. Is the plugin conflicting with another plugin or program? Weird thing is, every other part of the plugin works. It's just the fillet tool that I'm having problems with.
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As all of the 2Dfillet's methods are wrapped in a class, and it only uses built-in API calls... I'd expect no clashes.
Have you tried resetting hardware acceleration etc in preferences to see if that is affecting anything [clutching at straws here!]
To check if script that loads after 2Dtools IS messing something up you could try and copy/paste this into the Ruby Console + <enter>
load '2Dtools/2DfilletTool.rb'
Then try to use the 2Dfillet tool - if it works we know something is clashing if not we are no worse off...
If it's still bust try temporarily renaming 'Plugins' as say 'Plugins_Disabled' and then make a new 'Plugins' folder; now copy into that the following files/folder that are needed for the 2Dtools to work:2Dtoolsfolder with all of its contents intact
2D#.rb
deBabelizer.rb
Restart Sketchup.
If 2Dfillet now works we know there's a clash with something that's now not loading.
If you've recently added some scripts try copying those over a few at a time and restart/test to see if you can still use 2Dfillet.
If you get a culprit let me know
Remember to copy the scripts so the origin set of plugins is not changed.
Swap the Plugins folders' names around so the origin is now called 'Plugins' again...
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