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      MartinRinehart
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      @msp_greg said:

      For instance, 'Model' may not be the best unqualified name for a class. IOW, what if someone has a lot of installed plug-ins? You don't want name resolution issues...

      Thanks, Greg. I should maybe learn a bit more Ruby. How does this work?

      You click VisMap on your Plugins menu. That's a trivial program that loads ...Plugins\vismap\vismap.rb. How might VisMap stumble onto some other Model class, or some other plugin stumble onto my Model?

      Thanks!

      Author, Edges to Rubies - The Complete SketchUp Tutorial at http://www.MartinRinehart.com/models/tutorial.

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        MartinRinehart
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        @edson said:

        i followed your instructions. see the attached file below for the result.

        That output is perfect. Start to finish, it pulls the data it needs from your model into a correct JavaScript callback. The message doesn't get to JavaScript.

        On the PC, this is what I dubbed, The Bug from Hell:

        Link Preview Image
        I Love JavaScript (Sometimes)

        News: From Business Week Big Blue's Global Labs Building a global chain of "collaboratories." Good luck, IBM. May I loan you my copy of Fu...

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        (21st-century-languages.blogspot.com)

        Just to be sure, there is debugging info commented out in the "rubyReturned" function in "vismap.js". (A JavaScript inline comment is two forward slashes ("//") followed by a comment, or code you don't want to run or a seafood recipe.) Try uncommenting the "// whats_in_model()" function call. Just delete the two slashes. Try Vismap again.

        Expected result: nothing. Ruby's callback doesn't call back. Took a week to figure this out on the PC. Why should the Mac be different? (It should be different because it's a Mac, but this is Google code, not Apple code.)

        Possible result: you get a pop-up, center screen, detailing "whats_in_model()". Then we have something to work with. Otherwise, ...

        Author, Edges to Rubies - The Complete SketchUp Tutorial at http://www.MartinRinehart.com/models/tutorial.

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          MartinRinehart
          last edited by

          The current version now supports about 12k layer/scene intersections.

          Mac issues remain.

          "Monty", (I say to my pet python) "That's the dumbest idea you've ever had."

          "Yeah, hotshot, you got a better idea?"

          Lacking an answer, am now trying Monty's suggestion. You never know.

          Author, Edges to Rubies - The Complete SketchUp Tutorial at http://www.MartinRinehart.com/models/tutorial.

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            markozeta
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            @martinrinehart said:

            The current version now supports about 12k layer/scene intersections.

            Buggy still, but the problem is in ruby! Here's the console dump on "send to model":

            (eval);259; warning; invalid character syntax; use ?\s
            (eval);259; warning; string literal in condition
            Error; #<LocalJumpError; return from proc-closure>
            (eval);259;in `call'
            

            BSME - Cal Poly Pomona
            Sketchup Pipe Maniac

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              MartinRinehart
              last edited by

              @markozeta said:

              Buggy still, but ...

              Thanks for the dump. Line 259 is my EOF comment, so I'm not sure what to make of it.

              Are you PC or Mac?

              If it's PC, can you UL or send me a model? (MartinRinehart at Google's mail service).

              Martin

              Author, Edges to Rubies - The Complete SketchUp Tutorial at http://www.MartinRinehart.com/models/tutorial.

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                MartinRinehart
                last edited by

                @markozeta said:

                but the problem is in ruby!

                Actually, it's in Ruby, but not the Ruby I wrote. See this:

                http://groups.google.com/group/sketchupruby/browse_thread/thread/17bff6988f12037b

                Google search is one of the wonders of the world. That said, how to find a workaround?

                Author, Edges to Rubies - The Complete SketchUp Tutorial at http://www.MartinRinehart.com/models/tutorial.

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                  MartinRinehart
                  last edited by

                  Thank you, markozeta, for your pipes! (A big model w/lots of scenes and layers, most helpful for finding the Ruby bug workaround.)

                  A new version is up. Tested on the PC. Monty, my pet Python, thinks it might work on the Mac, too. Let me know.

                  http://www.martinrinehart.com/models/rubies/vismapdoc.html

                  Author, Edges to Rubies - The Complete SketchUp Tutorial at http://www.MartinRinehart.com/models/tutorial.

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                    jsteacy
                    last edited by

                    Just a heads up, I downloaded the most recent version and got an error hitting the button 'get data from model'

                    line 157, char 2, error expected '}', code 0

                    which causes nothing to happen after I continue to run the script on the page.

                    I haven't read all the posts before this so maybe someone brought it up already but I figured since this was a new version, its a new problem.

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                      markozeta
                      last edited by

                      New to add to documentation:

                      Only update Vismap with sketchup closed. Updating with sketchup open is bad.

                      Mark

                      BSME - Cal Poly Pomona
                      Sketchup Pipe Maniac

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                        markozeta
                        last edited by

                        New version works, even on my bigger model!

                        Now about that alphabetical layer sorting I asked for... πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„ πŸ’š πŸŽ‰

                        It helps when I can check vismap with a nice straight diagonal for these large maps, since I can just make sure that it works perfect.

                        xooo
                        oxoo
                        ooxo
                        ooox

                        vs.

                        xooo
                        ooxo
                        oxoo
                        ooox

                        It helps.

                        BSME - Cal Poly Pomona
                        Sketchup Pipe Maniac

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                          MartinRinehart
                          last edited by

                          @jsteacy said:

                          I downloaded the most recent version and got an error hitting the button 'get data from model'

                          Can you UL a model? I can't reproduce this. Thanks.

                          Author, Edges to Rubies - The Complete SketchUp Tutorial at http://www.MartinRinehart.com/models/tutorial.

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                            MartinRinehart
                            last edited by

                            @markozeta said:

                            New version works, even on my bigger model!

                            Pat yourself on back. You had a major hand in that. Or at least your pipes did.

                            @markozeta said:

                            Now about that alphabetical layer sorting I asked for...

                            Hmmm. Sorting is trivial, of course. Takes a single line to sort an array. Problem is, if you check a box, how do I know which layer that is in the model? Requires some sort of mapping from unsorted to sorted order.

                            As names are unique, I could do a brute force mapping, I suppose. Hmmm.

                            Author, Edges to Rubies - The Complete SketchUp Tutorial at http://www.MartinRinehart.com/models/tutorial.

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                              Edson
                              last edited by

                              martin,

                              good news! it works on mac now!

                              although it must be a pain for you to have us always asking for more features, i second bob's request for a scroll bar: in a model with many layers there will be no way to reach the ones at the bottom.

                              THANKS!


                              vismap_1809.png

                              edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre β€’ brasil
                              http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                markozeta
                                last edited by

                                Scroll bars pop up on the PC, but not on the Mac...

                                Interesting. That's pretty - ubergeek. πŸ€“

                                Mark

                                BSME - Cal Poly Pomona
                                Sketchup Pipe Maniac

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                                  Bob James
                                  last edited by

                                  Martin,

                                  In addition to sorting, can you put in a scroll bar: I have more layers than can fit in the VisMap dialog box fully extended top to bottom. [MacPro]

                                  This is an awesomely useful plugin, but, in addition to the above, I cannot load my large model: there doesn't seem to be a problem with the number of layers, but, apparently, with a large number of layers (as shown in the VisMap for another model) and a large number of scenes (in this case 15: reduced from 20 to see if that would help).

                                  Super-super stuff 😍


                                  Shows that VisMap can handle many layers, but needs a scroll bar

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                                    markozeta
                                    last edited by

                                    @martinrinehart said:

                                    As names are unique

                                    Only for Layers! Scenes can have same names...

                                    *Hopes his cry of despair reaches the target before ... πŸ‘Š *

                                    BSME - Cal Poly Pomona
                                    Sketchup Pipe Maniac

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                                    • Bob JamesB Offline
                                      Bob James
                                      last edited by

                                      Thought I'd give it a try on my PC: when I clicked on "Load Model Data" I received the attached error dialog 😞


                                      Script Error.png

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                                        MartinRinehart
                                        last edited by

                                        @bob james said:

                                        Thought I'd give it a try on my PC: when I clicked on "Load Model Data" I received the attached error dialog 😞

                                        Bob, that error reporting is exemplary. It is with some regret that I must inform you that MSIE's error reporting is near useless. Can you UL or email (MartinRinehart at Google's mail service) a model that generates this error?

                                        Mac folks:

                                        Attached is a replacement for .../Plugins/vismap/vismap.rb. It may give you the scrollbars we PC folks have. Let me know.


                                        scrollbars on Mac?

                                        Author, Edges to Rubies - The Complete SketchUp Tutorial at http://www.MartinRinehart.com/models/tutorial.

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                                        • Bob JamesB Offline
                                          Bob James
                                          last edited by

                                          @martinrinehart said:

                                          Mac folks:

                                          Attached is a replacement for .../Plugins/vismap/vismap.rb. It may give you the scrollbars we PC folks have. Let me know.

                                          It works! πŸ‘

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                                          • chrisglasierC Offline
                                            chrisglasier
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                                            Anyone who has read any of my posts will know that I am very keen on promoting the use of web dialogs and as I see Vismaps a part of this I hope the following critique will be seen in that light:

                                            Notes are based on this screenshot of the plugin Vismap.png

                                            Sketchup windows generally seem pretty tightly designed as small as possible to minimise obstructing the display of the geometry. I think you could beneficially lose the rubies and title in the body.

                                            The idea of the table and scene code numbers is an awkward solution. At least the table should follow the scroll.

                                            I think the option to have layers and scenes in alphabetical/sequential order is important.

                                            In the screenshot you see I have used full screen and yet only display about half of the layers. I usually want to see the effect of turning layers on and off in the current scene using the scene tabs for example to check others. Maybe it is just my intuition and others are better able to visualise the outcome. If you consider making Vismap into a machine would be beneficial I would be happy to help with that.

                                            Chris

                                            With TBA interfaces we can analyse what is to be achieved so that IT can help with automation to achieve it.

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