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    • boofredlayB Offline
      boofredlay
      last edited by

      Welcome pena. SketchUp does not draw a true circle. The circle and cylinder are comprised of line segments and faces. The same goes for arcs.

      Segments.jpg
      See picture above (I have hidden lines visible in this example):
      I selected the circle tool and drew a 3" radius circle then pulled it up. That first circle was 24 segments which is the default. Next I selected the circle tool again but changed the segments to 48. You do this simply by typing the number on your keypad after selecting the circle tool. You will see your number displayed in the Value Control Box. It looks like this:

      Sides.jpg
      You can also change the segments of the circle (or arc) after you draw it but before you push/pull it. With the select tool select the circle and choose Window / Entity Info and you will see this box:

      Info.jpg

      Now as for why you are seeing two circles in Autocad I am not certain, I don't have it here at home. My guess is that you are seeing a graphic issue. Do a refresh and you might only see the segmented circle. Can you select both?

      Hope this helps.

      http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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      • P Offline
        pena
        last edited by

        Thanks for the reply. More segments makes smoothers looking circle true, but I'm not sure how those CNC machines will handle it. I mean, will it be smooth in real life (segments vs real circle).

        It wasn't a graphic card issue. I can select both:

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        It looks like there are two lines in all round shapes. In sketchup when I view in wireframe mode, there's only one line.

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          pena
          last edited by

          I think I'm just going to replace all holes in my object with real circles in CAD. I think it's only solution to get smooth circle.

          I have another problem with Arc. When I do Arc, it doesnt have straight lines. Here's picture:

          Start and end points are from those guidelines:

          http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/341/test1t.jpg

          Arc doesn't go to the points I wanted and is F'd up:

          http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1594/test2s.jpg

          You can see that there's space between the Arc and "roof":

          http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/6178/test3u.jpg

          What is wrong with this?

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          • P Offline
            pena
            last edited by

            It seems that Sketchup draws both Arc and segments for every round shape. You just can't see them in Sketchup, but you will see them in CAD.

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            • boofredlayB Offline
              boofredlay
              last edited by

              That is odd because I am not getting that result when I export to Autocad. Now that I am at work I can check this on my end. This is what I am getting:

              Circle.jpg
              So how are you bringing it into SketchUp? I am curious as to why you have two "circles".

              Now the Arc problem. You must have some geometry issues going on. Can you post the model up for us to have a looky?

              As far as accuracy with the CNC, you are probably best doing what you suggested, cutting new holes. That is unless you make your circles in SketchUp with a ridiculously high segment count. 96+

              http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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              • boofredlayB Offline
                boofredlay
                last edited by

                For your amusement I am attaching both the SketchUp and Autocad file I used above.


                Remove the .zip at the end to be able to open this Autocad file. This website does not allow .dwg files.


                Circle.skp

                http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                • P Offline
                  pena
                  last edited by

                  I opened your SU file and saved it as dwg and opened in CAD, same problem. You have to zoom close to see that extra line.

                  http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9475/92943375.jpg

                  I do the drawing in SU and exported it as dwg so I can check how the dwg file looks.

                  btw, is there any way to snap object to the guide lines? My objects doesn't snap to any edge atm.

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
                    last edited by

                    To me, it really seems that somehow while your segmented SU circle is transferred correctly to CAD, it adds one of those "real" CAD circles to it as well.

                    I don't know what the solution could be - only the images suggest this to me.

                    Gai...

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                    • P Offline
                      pena
                      last edited by

                      This is what I see in SU:

                      http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7614/66618881.jpg

                      This is what it looks like after importing to CAD:

                      http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/909/54249320.jpg

                      And this is how it looks after I select steering wheel tool:

                      http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2930/99464259.jpg

                      So after I open the dwg, it has that very hard shaped Arc, but after I select steering wheel tool or orbit the image in some other way, the Arc changes so it's more round.

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        In AutoCAD type 'regenall' and see if that fixes it - it might be a graphics glitch ?

                        TIG

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                          pena
                          last edited by

                          regenall makes it look like 2nd pic, but it doesn't fix it. It's not graphical glitch because I can select it. I think I'm just going to learn how to do the whole thing in CAD.

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                          • boofredlayB Offline
                            boofredlay
                            last edited by

                            Well there is certainly something going on at your end. I am not getting those results at all. Can you post the dwg for us to see? Maybe post your export settings as well?

                            SketchUp does not calculate a true circle so you should not be getting this at all.

                            Edit: to upload the dwg just change the extension to zip or add .zip after dwg so it will upload.

                            http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                            • A Offline
                              Aerilius
                              last edited by

                              If I'm not totally wrong, I think the solution is not too difficult.
                              A Sketchup circle or arc is not the sum of its segments (there are cardinal points and you always edit it later and change the radius). So my idea is that Sketchup has the low poly circle and a hidden real circle for editing the properties. Have you tried right click and explode curve?

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                              • boofredlayB Offline
                                boofredlay
                                last edited by

                                You can only edit the number of segments when the circle or arc is in 2d. As soon as you push/pull the circle you no longer have that ability.

                                http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
                                  last edited by

                                  I think dwg attachment is allowed - at least you can try before renaming it.

                                  Gai...

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                                  • boofredlayB Offline
                                    boofredlay
                                    last edited by

                                    I tried before adding mine and it is not allowed.

                                    http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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