[Plugin] SectionCutFace
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Awesome update. Thanks TIG
Just a thought but if the section plane was placed on a layer other than Layer0 could SCF pick the layer name up and use it as the default whilst still offering the option to select a new or other layer?
I'd like to set the edges on can I change the default from No?
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@arcad-uk said:
Awesome update. Thanks TIG
Just a thought but if the section plane was placed on a layer other than Layer0 could SCF pick the layer name up and use it as the default whilst still offering the option to select a new or other layer?
I'd like to set the edges on can I change the default from No?
The Section-Plane's layer will already be available on the drop-down list, with the new unique SCUT- specific layer being the first offered. I think it's best if each SCUT- is on its own SCUT- layer - that way allows you the best flexibility for views/scenes etc... BUT if you change it each time, you just have to manage thins differently...Once you have set some defaults in the dialog they are remembered for that session...
However, I think you want to change the initial default settings for 'Hide' TO 'No'...
If you DON'T hide edges the SCUT's edges will bleed through in views without an active section-plane and the SCUT's layer on - not much of an issue UNLESS the SCUT is on a shared layer ?I'll issue an update that'll let you edit most of the dialog's initial default settings in the 'SectionCutFace_loader.rb' file file using a plain-text editor like Notepad...
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My work flow puts the sections with edges on separate scene managed layers, this allows me hide them in elevations and to use the 2D data for quick and accurate dimensioning in LO. Many LO users will be aware of the frustration of not being able to pick up points on a 3D model for dimensioning and tracing.
The point of picking up the section plane layer is to speed up the layer selection process when updating a cut and avoid unnecessary/accidental layers being created or having to scroll and hopefully pick the right layer associated with the section plane. It just seems a logical progression with the fantastic "Glue" option you introduced with v3.
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Here's v3.3
http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=172583#p172583The
../Plugins/SectionCutFace/SectionCutFace_loader.rbfile now contains editable lists for changing default colors AND the dialog's initial default values.
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@arcad-uk said:
My work flow puts the sections with edges on separate scene managed layers, this allows me hide them in elevations and to use the 2D data for quick and accurate dimensioning in LO. Many LO users will be aware of the frustration of not being able to pick up points on a 3D model for dimensioning and tracing.
The point of picking up the section plane layer is to speed up the layer selection process when updating a cut and avoid unnecessary/accidental layers being created or having to scroll and hopefully pick the right layer associated with the section plane. It just seems a logical progression with the fantastic "Glue" option you introduced with v3.
If you accept the default SCUT-12345 layer for the SCUT, then you'll still have the Section-Plane selected after the SCUT is added; you can simply use the Layer toolbar drop-down OR Entity Info to assign the Section-Plane to its matching SCUT's layer - the the two are then on the same uniquely named layer.
To find the layer of an SCUT later on you can select it and then Entity Info or the Layer toolbar drop-down will show it.
You can't change the layer of a SCUT that is Locked - BUT if it's not glued then you can un-lock, re-layer and re-lock.
You can't successfully change the layer of a SCUT that is Glued - again, it is locked, BUT even if if it were to be un-locked and re-layered - the next time it is updated by a change in the model, then it will reuse its preset layer set in the dialog when it was first created - reverting your changes!So, if you want your Section-Plane and its SCUT to share a layer, then why no reassign the Plane to the SCUT's layer immediately after the SCUT is made?
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Aha
I've been making wrong assumption about your super glue.Could you clarify the update process of a glued SCUT? Say I've created a SCUT for my model, I then go and change the size of an object within the cut plane what are the steps to getting it to update. I ask because I think I'm missing something simple.
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this looks great TIG. i'll have to try it - but i've been using a slightly modified version of your original and hate to part with it. (mainly defaults, etc...)
-mike
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@bmike said:
this looks great TIG. i'll have to try it - but i've been using a slightly modified version of your original and hate to part with it. (mainly defaults, etc...)
-mike
Make sure you keep a copy of the old rb version as the new rb file installed into Plugins will overwrite it...
The current version [v3.3] let's you edit the list of default 'colors' in the drop-down, and also set default behaviors - like default-color, and the other options which are defaulted to YES can be set to NO - although remember that options some are mutually exclusive, e.g. a 'Glued' SCUT has to be 'Locked' etc... -
@arcad-uk said:
Aha
I've been making wrong assumption about your super glue.Could you clarify the update process of a glued SCUT? Say I've created a SCUT for my model, I then go and change the size of an object within the cut plane what are the steps to getting it to update. I ask because I think I'm missing something simple.
for the default edit.
If the newly made SCUT is set to 'Glue', then whenever its linked Section-Pane is moved/rotated etc the SCUT faces will be reformed to suit the newly sliced objects. You'll need to complete the move etc so its faces are 'refreshed'.
Whenever the rest of the model is changed, then any Glued SCUTs - irrespective of their 'context' - are updated so their faces correctly reflect what they now intersect, following the changes to the model...A non-Glued SCUT behaves just like the previous version's section-cuts - the SCUT has no link to the Section-Plane can be moved away from it, edited etc [provided it's unlocked]
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TIG,
Excellent plugin got even better!!!
However tried to edit SectionCutFace_loader.rb but had no success:
- What is the name for I should use for Default color? I copied what you had in the list...
- Why doesn't it change the default for hide edges?
Best regards,
JQL
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I'm not getting that behavior, I installed directly from the SU Plugin store, let it overwrite my old version. Lock toggle seems broken, and I don't get anything to update.
YouTube (I'm on a Mac, up to date OS, SKPro2013):
-Mike
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@tig said:
If the newly made SCUT is set to 'Glue', then whenever its linked Section-Pane is moved/rotated etc the SCUT faces will be reformed to suit the newly sliced objects. You'll need to complete the move etc so its faces are 'refreshed'.
Whenever the rest of the model is changed, then any Glued SCUTs - irrespective of their 'context' - are updated so their faces correctly reflect what they now intersect, following the changes to the model...If I move the section and create a new glued SCUT the old one is deleted
but as per Bmike's posts the SCUTs aren't updating automatically as suggested by your post even with a simple box.If there are a large number of sections in a file updating a SCUT after every geometric change may not be good for productivity, it would be better to have a "refresh cut" menu item.
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If you read the notes Lock = No only works if Glue = No
If you set Glue Yes Lock is always set = Yes whatever you want to do.I am perplexed how you don't seem to get the cuts updating properly - many others do...
Perhaps it's a MAC issue ?
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@tig said:
If you read the notes Lock = No only works if Glue = No
If you set Glue Yes Lock is always set = Yes whatever you want to do.I am perplexed how you don't seem to get the cuts updating properly - many others do...
Perhaps it's a MAC issue ?
I'll be issuing a new version shortly, try that and report back...Sorry, I misinterpreted the Lock / Unlock, but it makes sense.
I will try again, and when I see an update, I'll test.Odd, for sure.
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Here's v3.4
http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=172583#p172583
The glitch with the customized dialog items is fixed.
Glue==Yes no longer forces a Lock.
The default for Glue is now No.
There are now three choices for 'Glue':
Yes = The SCUT is linked and will change with the Section-Plane/Model all of the time.
No = There is no link between the SCUT and the Section-Plane once it's been made.
On_Demand = The SCUT is linked to the Section-Plane, but it only updates when you use the context-menu to 'Redo SectionCutPlane' - this item appears only if the selected Section-Plane has that type of linking set. -
@tig said:
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I am perplexed how you don't seem to get the cuts updating properly - many others do...
Perhaps it's a MAC issue ?
I'll be issuing a new version shortly, try that and report back...Hi TIG,
same problem for me (no update on moving cutting plane or stretching geometry) on WIN 7pro 64.
I tried on both Sketchup 2013 PRO and Sketchup 8 PRO.Thanks.
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@gbing said:
@tig said:
@bmike
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I am perplexed how you don't seem to get the cuts updating properly - many others do...
Perhaps it's a MAC issue ?
I'll be issuing a new version shortly, try that and report back...Hi TIG,
same problem for me (no update on moving cutting plane or stretching geometry) on WIN 7pro 64.
I tried on both Sketchup 2013 PRO and Sketchup 8 PRO.Thanks.
Giovanni
Weird BUT have you tried the latest - v3.4 - as well as Yes/No for 'Glue' this now has an 'On_Demand' option - that way it will update when you tell it to, from a special the context-menu item, otherwise it stays where you first made it... -
TIG, Many thanks for the latest version. The REDO is working perfectly.
The auto update still doesn't but I doubt I would use it by choice anyway as my models are quite complex. You could omit it if there seems to be a global problem getting it to work?I have been having problems with reversed faces and filled voids which is almost certainly down to my modelling and the well known "when is a hole not a hole" interpretation issue, which is why I was asking for a glued edges only option; I have resolved that by using the native "wireframe" mode for a style showing just the SCFs so I can overlay the linework on my plans.
I've not had time to check the default settings overrides but other than that
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Here's v3.5 http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=172583#p172583
The permutations of the dialog's options is now more relaxed.
The only disallowed combos are with the <No_Faces> option - no hiding edges and you must keep faceless edges - otherwise you see nothing or the cut-group is empty !
Otherwise you can now have a <No_Faces> cut that is glued/On_Demand - although its visibility will be restricted when it's on the Plane...
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