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    • pilouP Offline
      pilou
      last edited by

      @unknownuser said:

      My PC works hard to make SU running, and I can't even think to run a modeler on it

      Are you joking? 😮
      My Pc is a seven year old! And all works very fine on it! 😎
      I have just progs who don't ask too many things to the video card!
      Zbrush, Moi, Su, Blender 😉
      PS SU is also a modeler! ☀

      PS2 What happen when a render is made with these "horrible lines"?

      Frenchy Pilou
      Is beautiful that please without concept!
      My Little site :)

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      • simon le bonS Offline
        simon le bon
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        Hey Hey Helisei,

        You show too much or you explain not enough 😛
        You are waiting I find by myself I suppose. Not a lot of time again for that these next days..

        You are right. S&S works well on the letter shape you have redraw.
        but:
        1_ How did you do to make the base of the letter correctly flared ??
        2_ How did you do to redraw all the lines of the letter shape: by hand??


        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_W_450.jpg

        I can see I have still a lot to learn on S&S. This another technic for exemple find me with the tong out of my mouth:Contest Winner: Modelling a Panton Chair with Subdivide and Smooth

        Thanks to participate,
        simon . . . . . .and theSlideshow(each link is the same updated one)

        PS: Your cars are crazy beautiful man 👍

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        • simon le bonS Offline
          simon le bon
          last edited by

          Hi ely862me

          @unknownuser said:

          Take the model as in image 3 or 4 and run Subdivide&Smooth on it..u ll get the desired result

          I'm afraid I don't understand the way you think about!
          I've tried this time, not the subdivide+smooth operations like before but the modeler operation as i can think you are talking about, and the result is the following, after what i can't go further.

          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_P_450.jpg


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_Q_450.jpg

          /**

          Dear Gaieus,
          One more time you're right! I can't say I didn't know what you're talking, about cleaning unwanted geometry. But i thought in this case that it was not necessary to clean because there was no faces joining. As we can see, I was wrong 😄
          Adendum about this subject:Creating a Hidden Seam in Google SketchUp by Eric Lay(Boofredlay).

          After cleaning:

          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_R_450.jpg

          This time it looks ok 👍

          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_S_450.jpg

          and i'm afraid this is my ultimate best

          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_T_450.jpg

          Updated slideshow

          simon

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          • simon le bonS Offline
            simon le bon
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            @ely862me said:

            :lol: actually is very simple..

            i ll give u 3 hints: offset tool,skin tool and scale tool

            Very simple? No I wouldn't say that. In fact I haven't found how to make exactly the good flare I wanted (the same as yours). And I would have please (now I have searched 😉 ) more precisions from you on the way you've mastered it.

            • A very important thing I have learned here is that: an offset doesn't give the same outer edge than a scale??(really a surprise to me) this is the reason why I was not able to do the right flare using scale tool and FredoScale!!

            • No need to redraw all the lines, there is a cleaning module in Skin.rb


            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WA_450.jpg


            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WB_450.jpg

            A check with S&S

            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WC_450.jpg

            "Very important"

            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WD_450.jpg


            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WE_450.jpg


            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WF_450.jpg

            (I have let down momentarily what I had begun whith Gaieus and I will retake it soon.)

            simon

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            • simon le bonS Offline
              simon le bon
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              Ok Elisei, you seem to be occupied. I can't wait you to follow my idea. (It would be great and friendly if you would give us a little step by step further explanation)

              I start from your shape.


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WFB_450.jpg

              I need to subdivide the top of the letter. I'm using SandBox tool: from contour.

              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WG_450.jpg

              Now using SkechyFFD to put some irregularity to the letter (I glue the bottom points)

              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WH_450.jpg


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WI_450.jpg


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WJ_450.jpg

              (Note this other try with modeler from SandBox Tools.)

              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WK_450.jpg

              Finally, with a ShapeBender treatment:

              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WL_450.jpg


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WM_450.jpg


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_WN_450.jpg

              not to bad for me 😉

              Slideshow
              ___
              [Plugin] SketchyFFD by CPhillips
              [Plugin] Shape Bender by Chris Fullmer

              simon.

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              • ely862meE Offline
                ely862me
                last edited by

                after making the shape with offset and skin i scale it but not all, just the outer lower profile . When u scale all lower profile the inside part of the letter is scaled too, so ,u want it to be smaller but u get it bigger(so it becomes bigger than the up part of the letter), what u need is to scale just the outer lower part of the letter

                Elisei (sketchupper)


                Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                Come and See EliseiDesign

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                • simon le bonS Offline
                  simon le bon
                  last edited by

                  A last try for another method using Terrain Reshape and afterward Randomize TIN

                  The idea: apply the process on a very low shape and scale it after. I'm starting from the offseted and skined shape from Elisei. The result is not bad but S&S do very better. Its job isn't really for that kind of thing.

                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XG_450.jpg

                  I still follow what was Planned:

                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XH_450.jpg

                  The result is beautiful but far from what I expect. I keep it in mind... 😉

                  Slideshow

                  Re I shall update with a link as soon as I shall have made a tutorial with this 😉

                  I think: End of the topic!!! Thanks to all

                  😎 Simon

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                  • ely862meE Offline
                    ely862me
                    last edited by

                    yet, u didn t get all the point..u need to make scale from center and select more geometry from the letter
                    Btw..i didn t subdivide the top and letter together because as u can see when u subdivide them together the top becomes messy ,if u look at it with hidden geometry off

                    Elisei


                    rl.jpg

                    Elisei (sketchupper)


                    Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                    Come and See EliseiDesign

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                    • simon le bonS Offline
                      simon le bon
                      last edited by

                      Hi Elisei,

                      hey hey!! You don't give up so easily 👍
                      -) Allright I was a bit modest with the lines I was scaling. What you do certainly works well.

                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XJ_450.jpg

                      I put at the end My last "R" (in french "l'air de la plage": a pretty bad wordgame hi!) in which I have hardly scale, redraw, modify the outlines.

                      -) I prefer rather than you, doing all this job on the same plane before elevate and skin process.

                      @unknownuser said:

                      .i didn t subdivide the top and letter together because as u can see when u subdivide them together the top becomes messy

                      -)Messy, yes it is , but I don't understand you because:
                      1-with hidden geometry off, the look is perfect without any seam line remaining.
                      2-when I subdivide independantly the top, this one doesn't fit exactly well.

                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XL_450.jpg

                      3-I haven't found one method which give not a "messy result".
                      4-the subivision is enough to use SketchyFFD pretty well.

                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XK_450.jpg


                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XM_450.jpg

                      Enough of the "G" Here is the "R"

                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XN_450.jpg


                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XO_450.jpg

                      .

                      ++simon

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                      • simon le bonS Offline
                        simon le bon
                        last edited by

                        Hi Elisei,
                        I was not fool: Very simple but your hidden trick 😆
                        At the end the entire solution is from you!! Thanks and bravo: I have learned. I'm going to make a tutorial to simplify the process; shared with your name.


                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XA_450.jpg


                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XB_450.jpg

                        Partial Scale. Re: to simplify, I have removed the original letter's line

                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XC_450.jpg

                        three scales. The yellow and blue figure is the basic one. I put it just to consider the scales ❗

                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XD_450.jpg

                        And now I get it Myself

                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XE_450.jpg

                        I come back on my previous post. No need to subdivide independantly the top of the letter. Just integer it in S&S modeler's process 💭

                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_XF_450.jpg

                        simon

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                        • simon le bonS Offline
                          simon le bon
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                          @alan fraser said:

                          I know that SU now has its own 3D text tool, but that tool is fairly basic. Don't forget the solution of choice before the built-in option (or the Smustard Ruby)
                          Elefont will automatically add a variety of bevels and chamfers that can be exported in dxf and brought into SU.
                          http://www.armanisoft.ch/webdesign/elefont/Elefont.html

                          Dear Alan,

                          I have found time to test this "Elefont" from "Ingenieurbüro" Armin Müller you were talking about.

                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Elephantroselunette.jpg

                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Elefont_001_550.jpg

                          This last 1.4 version dated from 7July 1998 begin to be may be a little outdated 😕 . It is not too much handy because its display is very small and the previsu doesn't give a great control.
                          But in making small tries, we can do number of interesting variations. At the end the saving format in DXF is perfect to import in SketchUp. 👍

                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Elefont_002_550.jpg


                          These subdivided letter shapes are perfect to use directly with S&S , avoiding the previous Offset, Scale and Skin stages 👍
                          I have tried to reach my goal: the molted letter.
                          In taking the letter at this stage, making a real flare isn't possible (?) anymore. So if we satisfied with the approximative Scaled flare, it is OK.

                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Elefont_003_550.jpg


                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Elefont_004_550.jpg


                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Elefont_005_550.jpg

                          😉simon

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