[Plugin Library] LibFredo6 - v14.7a - 09 Nov 24

louisr57

@agamemnus said:

Ok, I don't know exactly what's wrong but I am guessing it has to do with memory (undo/redo interference?) and/or interference with other functions. As I posted before, when I have this library active (the loader is in plugins), my flip, rotate, and group tools gradually become greyed out. The "greying-out" happens a lot faster on bigger models.

This can happen when I don't use any library functions, either.

I think the greying out of menus may happen anyway. I have seen a bug report about this issue in SU7 and 7.1
To all users : is this something you experience as well, and is it in relation with LibFredo6?

Fredo

Greetings Fredo,

I can't wait to try these great new tools (TOS, etc.) ... the buttons and menu items are there ... but they are all GREYED-OUT (caps for emphasis only ... not yelling!) ... I've reviewed the pdf's and the posts for clues ... all the required folders are there in the right place (under Sketchup plugins folder) ... I've shut-down and restarted Sketchup multiple times ... to no avail. Will try stripping the plugins folder of everything except your stuff and see what happens. Please advise when you have a moment.

Thanks very much,

Louis Radakir
Ottawa, ON, Canada

fredo6

@louisr57 said:

... the buttons and menu items are there ... but they are all GREYED-OUT (caps for emphasis only ... not yelling!) ... I've reviewed the pdf's and the posts for clues ... all the required folders are there in the right place (under Sketchup plugins folder) ... I've shut-down and restarted Sketchup multiple times ... to no avail. Will try stripping the plugins folder of everything except your stuff and see what happens. Please advise when you have a moment.

Are you referring to the main toolbar and the main menus? If so this would be very strange, because there is no mechanism to gray them out in my plugins.
If you have a picture, it would help understand.

Thanks

Fred

TIG

@unknownuser said:

@louisr57 said:

... the buttons and menu items are there ... but they are all GREYED-OUT (caps for emphasis only ... not yelling!) ... I've reviewed the pdf's and the posts for clues ... all the required folders are there in the right place (under Sketchup plugins folder) ... I've shut-down and restarted Sketchup multiple times ... to no avail. Will try stripping the plugins folder of everything except your stuff and see what happens. Please advise when you have a moment.

Are you referring to the main toolbar and the main menus? If so this would be very strange, because there is no mechanism to gray them out in my plugins.
If you have a picture, it would help understand.
Thanks
Fred

The issue of loosing some right-click context-menu items [i.e. they get "greyed-out"] is a known bug with more recent versions of SketchUp - Google are being pressed to fix it...
Its cause is not wholly established, although having lots of plugins that make context-menu items and repeated clicking on objects seem to both trigger it - separately or together !
All of a context-menu's items still appear correctly under the last item in the main Edit Menu - so you can access them this way if the worst happens...
The only 'fix' is to save and restart SUp - then you should get back the context-menu, albeit momentarily.
Don't load plugins you aren't ever going to use - they increase the load and might just be the 'last-straw...' - move them out of the Plugins folder or rename them from .rb to .txt - that way you can always load them during a session by typing in the Ruby Console load"the_script_name.txt" ...

catjapan

thank

SergioGeuna

Thank you! Looks so useful - I can't wait to play with it!

fredo6

[CRITICAL Upgrade - 6 May 10 - 23:55 CET - Bug fixing for the menu gray-out issue]

see http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=28135#p244052

Thanks to the clarifications brought up by jhauswirth, TIG and Thomthom about this ennoying problem, it is confirmed that LibFredo6 contributes to accelerate the apparition of the problem. Also included is a revised Spanish translation by Defisto.
So it is strongly advised that you upgrade to version 3.4c WHETHER YOU USE MY SCRIPTS OR NOT or disable my scripts in the menu Preferences > Extensions.

For those who wants to have some details, the issue is that LibFredo6 may create Command objects everytime you use a contextual menu and never release them, whereas the maximum limit for SU is 1,000 commands. So everytime you right-click in the SU selection tool, you get closer to the limit where menus will start graying.

EarthMover

Thanks Fredo for fixing this so quickly. It's hard to even use sketchup without your tools.

d12dozr

Yes, thanks indeed

prismcnd

Fredo, your latest script lib v 3.4c completely greys out my right -click options as early as sketchup start up on 7.1 win XP. help?

TIG

@prismcnd said:

Fredo, your latest script lib v 3.4c completely greys out my right -click options as early as sketchup start up on 7.1 win XP. help?

Have you put it [and its related files] in the Plugins folder inside its own folder ?

prismcnd

Confirmed all files are in the proper placement. works fine without the "libfredo.rb" file, but with it as soon as i load sketchup and first action is right-click on sang all right click options are greyed out

TIG

Have you also updated FredoScale etc ?

thomthom

@tig said:

Have you also updated FredoScale etc ?

No need. The code was in LibFredo. FredoScale did not have to be updated.
Tools on Surface did though.

There could be some other culprit to the disabled menus.

fredo6

@prismcnd said:

Confirmed all files are in the proper placement. works fine without the "libfredo.rb" file, but with it as soon as i load sketchup and first action is right-click on sang all right click options are greyed out

Could you use the following code in the Ruby console (copy & paste it):
l=[];ObjectSpace.each_object {|x| l.push x if x.class==UI::Command } ; l.length

This displays the number of Command objects.

After enabling LibFredo6 3.4c, check in the Ruby console BEFORE you right click and then AFTER.

Thanks

Fredo

thomthom

Some other plugin can still add to that - so it would not be an idication of FredoLib is the cause. To determine that one must disabled FredoLib and see if you still get an increase - if so, then there's another plugin doing this.

TIG

I get 332 before AND 332 afterwards...

How about making an observer script that watches the number of commands a la code snippet, and when it approaches /reaches 1000 it pops up a dialog warning you that you have too many commands loaded and might like to sort out your plugins or suffer 'grayed' context-menu items...
It would be nice it it could purge unused commands... but how ? ObjectSpace.garbage_collect ?

fredo6

@tig said:

I get 332 before AND 332 afterwards...

How about making an observer script that watches the number of commands a la code snippet, and when it approaches /reaches 1000 it pops up a dialog warning you that you have too many commands loaded and might like to sort out your plugins or suffer 'grayed' context-menu items...
It would be nice it it could purge unused commands... but how ? ObjectSpace.garbage_collect ?

The normal behavior should be that Commands objects are released as any othe Ruby object (This is what I thought by the way). From what jhauswirth reported, it seems that each UI::Command creates an underlying Windows static object which might itself not be released, even if the UI::Command object would be garbaged out by Ruby.

Fredo

rv1974

This gray fade was extremely annoying. What a relief

prismcnd

ran said script with LibFredo.rb disabled, returned a value of 293. ran said script with LibFredo6 enabled and returned said value of 428. Right-click menu is greyed out right from the start with Libfredo.rb enabled. As in before I've had a chance to create anything. Ken reports the same result from this post ( http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=11212&start=285 )
For the record I would like to say I really appreciate you guys looking into this. I used fredo's/your tools all the time and am really having a hard time remembering a workflow before I had these wonderful tools at my disposal.
here is the full report from the ruby console after i reenabled the script and ran the command in the ruby console

complete ruby console readout

thomthom

Have you tried removing LibFredo before installing this new version? To ensure all files are updated?