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    • BurkhardB Offline
      Burkhard
      last edited by

      seems somebody understands! great tool and more as I expected 👍

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      • Chris FullmerC Offline
        Chris Fullmer
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        ok, I'm struggling to get the rotations to work. I'm working on the square first. I can get it to rotate nicely around the z-axis. But I have not figured out a way to determine exactly how much to rotate it to get it where I want. I think this is just my lack of general mathematical knowledge. So can anyone offer some help with this? The image shows a mock-up of the problem. The square is what I am rotating on the labeled centerpoint. Chord AB needs to align with chord CD. But chord AB is not supplied. It is the vector made of 2 points where the y values are equal and its length is equal to AB.

        I'm sure that explanation makes no sense. Hopefully someone out there can read between the lines and figure out what I'm actually asking. Thanks,

        rotationhelp.jpg

        Chris

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        • X Offline
          xrok1
          last edited by

          could you not just align one of the sides to vertical (z)?

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          • Chris FullmerC Offline
            Chris Fullmer
            last edited by

            No, it doesn't show it well, but the sides are often not vertical. The alignment needs to make the top and bottom lie on planes that are "flat", but the sides are not necessarily vertical.

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            • P Offline
              putnik
              last edited by

              Thank you Chris A very useful script, am using it right now

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              • L Offline
                linea
                last edited by

                Thanks Chris.

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                • erikBE Offline
                  erikB
                  last edited by

                  Chris,
                  Thanks for the usefull ruby !
                  erikB

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                  • Chris FullmerC Offline
                    Chris Fullmer
                    last edited by

                    Your response hasn't gone un-noticed Tig. I thank you immensely for it. I'm still working on implementing it 😳 I think there is a small flaw in that I don't point C either. I think I know how to get it, so thats good. In fact, it is essentially what you provided with the "cosine rule". Thanks for that! That is currently what I'm working at. I had one method, but it was rather convoluted and started to fall apart for some reason, so I think it must not have been sound. This new method feels much more mathematically correct. I'll let you know how it goes. Hopefully within a few hours. Thanks sooo much for your help and ideas,

                    Chris

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      To rotate the square you have more than enough info. You don't actually need point-D.

                      You want to rotate it about the centre-point [let's call it point-O] - so you know that too.
                      You know point-A and point-C as you have them initially or have just calculated them already.
                      Now find the angle between the two vectors O->A and O->C.***
                      Select all of the square's edges (face will go with them?) and make a rotation-transformation about point-O by that angle: using the normal to the square's face as the axis of rotation...

                      Points A and C, and points B and D will then be coincident...


                      "new vector"
                      v = [x,y,z]
                      vector1 = Geom::Vector3d.new(v)

                      Where v [x,y,z] is obtained from the sum of the two points v = (pointO - pointA) etc

                      you might also want to ".normalize" the vector(s)...

                      Find vector2 (O->C) the same way...

                      "angle_between vectors"

                      The angle_between method is used to compute the angle (in radians) between this vector and another vector.

                      Syntax

                      angle = vector1.angle_between(vector2)

                      Arguments

                      vector2 - a Vector3d object

                      Return Value

                      angle - an angle (in radians)

                      Example

                      vector1 = Geom::Vector3d.new(x,y,z)
                      vector2 = Geom::Vector3d.new(xx,yy,zz)

                      angle = vector1.angle_between(vector2)

                      ###########

                      A bit more complicated to my mind is doing it with the 'cosine rule',

                      here it is though - you can easily find the length 'AC'

                      you have the other two points and can use 'AC = pointA.distance(pointC)' method for that.

                      You also know the circle's Radius - or can easily get it from the square's side dim.

                      Angle = Math::acos((RadiusRadius + RadiusRadius - ACAC) / (2Radius))

                      Note: if Angle > 90 degrees (pi/2) then it's negative...

                      .

                      TIG

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                      • MALAISEM Offline
                        MALAISE
                        last edited by

                        Hi Chris

                        Small feedback : using customer shape crashes SU ( under Windows XP 3)without any message.

                        MALAISE

                        La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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                        • Chris FullmerC Offline
                          Chris Fullmer
                          last edited by

                          @malaise said:

                          Hi Chris

                          Small feedback : using customer shape crashes SU ( under Windows XP 3)without any message.

                          MALAISE

                          Oh dear, thats not good. Can anyone else confirm? I don't have xp sp3 anywhere to test it on. Is it possible that it is a conflict with another script? That doesn't seem likely to me since I think I've written my code so that can not happen.

                          I do have xp sp2 I can test it on. Perhaps if I can duplicate it there, I can narrow down the problem. Thanks for the notice,

                          Chris

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                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
                            last edited by

                            Chris, I've done a couple of experiments with it. No crashes yet. I've got XP Pro SP3.

                            Dave

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                              Ecuadorian
                              last edited by

                              An artist who is also a coder?
                              That's Chris Fullmer!

                              Thank you very much for taking the time to code this; with a couple of tweaks, this will be perfect. 😎

                              -Miguel Lescano
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                              • MALAISEM Offline
                                MALAISE
                                last edited by

                                OK, let me see which plugin may be in conflict 👍

                                MALAISE

                                La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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                                • MALAISEM Offline
                                  MALAISE
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi ALL

                                  Filtering the last downloaded plugins, I've found a conflict with Jim's cd_power_n.rb ( mover2.rb) Has someone experienced that? several times tested.

                                  ( SU V7, Windows XP SP3 )

                                  MALAISE ❓

                                  La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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                                  • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                    Chris Fullmer
                                    last edited by

                                    Very Interesting. I have that plugin installed with no conflicts. I'll dig around tomorrow and see what I can find. Sorry for the inconvenience,

                                    Chris

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                                    • MALAISEM Offline
                                      MALAISE
                                      last edited by

                                      Thanks for playing attention, no matter for inconvenience, don't worry 😄
                                      MALAISE

                                      La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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                                      • J Offline
                                        Jim
                                        last edited by

                                        @malaise said:

                                        Hi ALL

                                        Filtering the last downloaded plugins, I've found a conflict with Jim's cd_power_n.rb ( mover2.rb) Has someone experienced that? several times tested.

                                        ( SU V7, Windows XP SP3 )

                                        MALAISE ❓

                                        Mover2 does not use a file or method named cd_power_n.rb.

                                        Hi

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                                        • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                          Chris Fullmer
                                          last edited by

                                          I know, its cad_fathers's SCF powertools toolbar plugin that wrapped mover2 into a file called cd_power_n.rb. If you open that file, its just your script. So I'm guessing it has something to do with how its being loaded from his main plugin loader maybe? I don't know. I know I've got my whole script wrapped in a class so I thought I should not have conflicts. But perhaps there is more to it than that.

                                          Chris

                                          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            I'm not getting bug-splats with custom-face, BUT it does inconveniently make a group of the selected face and not explode it at the end. It's easily fixed by adding a line of code after line #299, to explode the temporary group...

                                            @group.explode
                                            

                                            How's the orienting face rotation on end of line going ?
                                            .

                                            TIG

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