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    • alexschreyerA Offline
      alexschreyer Extension Creator
      last edited by

      Does anyone know if SketchUp has startup switches (like AutoCAD, for example)? I am thinking of something like:

      sketchup.exe /p "d:/plugins"

      AutoCAD does this nicely. For example, additional support files can be loaded at startup with a shortcut that contains the /s switch. This makes it easier to use the software in a "locked-down" computer lab where you have your own customized extension files on a USB stick.

      Author of "Architectural Design with SketchUp":
      http://sketchupfordesign.com/

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      • Chris FullmerC Offline
        Chris Fullmer
        last edited by

        I don't that you can do that, though someone might know more about it.

        But you can load ruby scripts directly from the ruby console inside of SU. Type:

        load "z;\sketchup\plugins\ScriptName.rb"
        

        And put the correct drive letter for you usb stick and of course the right path and correct plugin name. That works and I use it often.

        Or, I haven't tested it, but you could probably even write your own ruby script that loaded all your plugins. So it might be:

        load "z;\sketchup\plugins\ScriptName1.rb"
        load "z;\sketchup\plugins\ScriptName2.rb"
        load "z;\sketchup\plugins\ScriptName3.rb"
        load "z;\sketchup\plugins\ScriptName4.rb"
        load "z;\sketchup\plugins\ScriptName5.rb"
        

        And then from side of SU you could just run your loader script so it would load all your plugins in one shot. I've not tested that script and I'm not a ruby programmer, so don't shoot me if it doesn't work or requires some tweaks. But I think something like that should work. BTW, I'd like to know if it works or not. Thanks,

        Chris

        Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
        All my Plugins I've written

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        • J Offline
          Jim
          last edited by

          That's the right idea, Chris. There is a method defined in sketchup.rb called 'require_all' that takes a directory as an argument, and then require's all the .rb files in that directory.

          So once SketchUp is running, you should be able to open the Ruby Console and type:

          
          require_all "d;/plugins"
          
          

          Hi

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          • W Offline
            watkins
            last edited by

            Dear Jim,

            Does that mean that one could load different plugin folders, e.g. plugin_arch, plugin_mech etc?

            Regards,
            Bob

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            • alexschreyerA Offline
              alexschreyer Extension Creator
              last edited by

              Thanks for your great suggestions. I like both solutions. The require_all one will be a good solution for the computer lab application that I have in mind.

              I figured it might be a good idea to wrap that behavior into a plugin. So here's my first attempt (plugin_loader.rb):

              require 'sketchup.rb'
              
              def load_plugin_file
                filename = UI.openpanel "Select a SketchUp Plugin File (With RB Extension)", "", ""
                load filename
              end
              
              def load_plugin_folder
                # How can we select a folder easily with Ruby???
                # require_all foldername
              end
              
              filename = "plugin_loader.rb"
              
              if !file_loaded?(filename)
              
                # get the SketchUp plugins menu
                plugins_menu = UI.menu("Plugins")
                my_menu = plugins_menu.add_item("Load plugin... (file)") { load_plugin_file }
                my_menu = plugins_menu.add_item("Load plugins... (folder)") { load_plugin_folder }
                
                # Let Ruby know we have loaded this file
                file_loaded(filename)
              
              end
              

              Does anyone know a good solution to get a directory path using a selection box?

              Cheers,
              Alex

              Author of "Architectural Design with SketchUp":
              http://sketchupfordesign.com/

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              • J Offline
                Jim
                last edited by

                @watkins said:

                Dear Jim,

                Does that mean that one could load different plugin folders, e.g. plugin_arch, plugin_mech etc?

                Regards,
                Bob

                In theory, but it depends on how the script is written. There may be some plugins that make assumptions about where they are installed and where their support files are located, and thus will not work when moved outside the Plugins folder.

                Hi

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                • J Offline
                  Jim
                  last edited by

                  @alexschreyer said:

                  Does anyone know a good solution to get a directory path using a selection box?

                  Cheers,
                  Alex

                  Not using the the Ruby API. I don't know off-hand if anyone has ever posted another solution.

                  Hi

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                  • alexschreyerA Offline
                    alexschreyer Extension Creator
                    last edited by

                    Thanks, Jim. I was thinking about a (dirty) way: Let user select file in folder and then parse the directory path. Apparently that needs some conversion of backslashes into forward ones inbetween to get the Ruby functions to do it but it may work. Another option is a UI library, of course.

                    Cheers,
                    Alex

                    Author of "Architectural Design with SketchUp":
                    http://sketchupfordesign.com/

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                    • alexschreyerA Offline
                      alexschreyer Extension Creator
                      last edited by

                      This is turning more into a Ruby topic...

                      I tried the plugin loader with a few plugins and as Jim assumed some load and some don't. I don't know too much about Ruby, but one that puzzled me because it didn't work was the oniondome.rb. It requires only the 'parametric.rb' and 'bezier.rb' scripts, which in turn require only 'sketchup.rb'. All are in the same folder (/plugins/inactive/).

                      Are there any SU Ruby functions that assume a file to be in the Plugins folder although no absolute path is given in a plugin?

                      Cheers,
                      Alex

                      Author of "Architectural Design with SketchUp":
                      http://sketchupfordesign.com/

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                      • J Offline
                        Jim
                        last edited by

                        Well, here is the code for require_all:

                        
                        def require_all(dirname)
                            begin
                                rbfiles = Dir[File.join(dirname, "*.rb")]
                                $;.push dirname
                                rbfiles.each {|f| require f}
                            rescue
                                puts "could not load files from #{dirname}"
                            end
                        end
                        
                        

                        You will see a special variable $: which is an array and contains the load paths used by the load and require methods. Here is the result of entering $: in the Ruby Console on my PC:

                        
                        $;
                        ["C;/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins", "C;/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Tools", "C;/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Podium"]
                        
                        

                        The require_all method adds the sub-directory to the load path before trying to require the .rb file, so any support files can technically be stored in the sub-folder also.

                        I will check out oniondome.rb to see if there is anything unusual there... it works for me. You do need to use the full path such as;

                        
                        require_all(File.join(Sketchup.find_support_file("plugins"),"inactive"))
                        
                        

                        Hi

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                        • alexschreyerA Offline
                          alexschreyer Extension Creator
                          last edited by

                          Thanks, Jim! That's when Ruby is starting to turn cryptic on me...
                          Seems somewhat straight-forward, though. All we need now is the directory selection dialog.

                          I wanted to preset the file selection dialog to the plugin folder, seems like I can do that with $:[0]. Sweet!

                          Cheers,
                          Alex

                          Author of "Architectural Design with SketchUp":
                          http://sketchupfordesign.com/

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                          • J Offline
                            Jim
                            last edited by

                            @alexschreyer said:

                            I wanted to preset the file selection dialog to the plugin folder, seems like I can do that with $:[0]. Sweet!

                            That may work, but I am unsure if the order will be identical on every system SketchUp is installed on. I would just use

                            
                            plugins_folder = Sketchup.find_support_file("Plugins")
                            
                            

                            Hi

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
                              last edited by

                              @jim said:

                              Well, here is the code for require_all:

                              
                              > def require_all(dirname)
                              >     begin
                              >         rbfiles = Dir[File.join(dirname, "*.rb")]
                              >         $;.push dirname
                              >         rbfiles.each {|f| require f}
                              >     rescue
                              >         puts "could not load files from #{dirname}"
                              >     end
                              > end
                              > 
                              

                              You will see a special variable $: which is an array and contains the load paths used by the load and require methods. Here is the result of entering $: in the Ruby Console on my PC:

                              
                              > $;
                              > ["C;/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins", "C;/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Tools", "C;/Program Files/Google/Google SketchUp 7/Plugins/Podium"]
                              > 
                              

                              The require_all method adds the sub-directory to the load path before trying to require the .rb file, so any support files can technically be stored in the sub-folder also.

                              I will check out oniondome.rb to see if there is anything unusual there... it works for me. You do need to use the full path such as;

                              
                              > require_all(File.join(Sketchup.find_support_file("plugins"),"inactive"))
                              > 
                              

                              Does this override the existing built-in require_all method?
                              I used require_all in CityGen to load the modules, but I don't want it loading the sub-folder. If this overrides the existing method it could potentially cause problems.

                              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              • J Offline
                                Jim
                                last edited by

                                No, it IS the require_all method from sketchup.rb. It was meant as a reference.

                                Hi

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  Ah. -so it loads al ruby resources in the sub-folders as well?

                                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                    Chris Fullmer
                                    last edited by

                                    I don't think that it loads the sub folders at all. It looks like it just loads the .rb files from the specified psth.

                                    Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                    All my Plugins I've written

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      I think that the built-in require_all method doesn't load anything other than *.rb files in the given folder. My snippet in the other thread made it do sub-folders too...

                                      TIG

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