Construction & Working Drawings - Discussion

[KrisM]

Question for Sonder,

Further back in this thread, you mentioned that you supply coloured drawings to the owner, builder and for the permit set. The other plan sets would presumably be greyscale. I am wondering how your details sheets read when printed in greyscale. The coloured details are very clear but the distinction in the materials may not be so clear without the colour. Perhaps you could post an example.

Regards,
KrisM

[fionmacool]

SketchUp 2013 vindicates the argument of those who have championed the idea of creating Construction Documents in SU/ LO.

Please forgive the blatant advertising- For anyone who is interested in finding out how to set up SU/ LO for Con Docs please take a look at my book-

http://www.viewsion.ie/#!publications/c223s

By the way, Nick Sonder's approach is both harmonious with, and adds nicely to the workflow detailed in this workbook. In the forthcoming 2013 edition I will be referring to the technical innovations that Nick has popularised (If that's OK with you Nick? Obviously I would giving all due credit.)

I had the absolute pleasure of meeting and working with Nick in Boulder last October:)

[ivan_pajares]

Hi group,

folowing up on Nick's workflow I am encountering problems copying and pasting section linework to layout2013. I get an empty sketchup model reference whenever I paste the geometry from sketchup...

Actually I can only export it properly with the "send to layout" menu or inserting it in layout as a sketchup reference with a scene properly set up. Am I hitting a bug or just missing something?

Thanks, specially to Nick for sharing his workflow!

[JuanV.Soler]

Hi ivan_pajares

fortunately its going to be solved soon :

@marcdurant said:

Hi all-

The "copy from SketchUp and paste in LayOut" bug was introduced by some of the major refactoring in SketchUp. A fix for this is in QA as we speak and should be available soon.

thanks,
Marc

[ivan_pajares]

[quote="JuanV.Soler"]Hi ivan_pajares

fortunately its going to be solved soon :

[quote="marcdurant"]Hi all-

Great! Qué alivio, gracias!

[JuanV.Soler]

ya está aquí hoy ha salido la nueva adaptacion de la versión

link to download adaptation of the new version
http://www.sketchup.com/

lo anunciaron hoy :

http://sketchucation.com./forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=32055&p=480361&sid=a29135defc9861b52fc1b0b1c8852271#p480361

@tyler miller said:

This issue should now be fixed with version 2013.0.4124 that we released today. Please let us know if you see any problems.

Thanks,
Tyler

salud ¡

[bmike]

Just an update...
This:

Came from the drawings I posted earlier:

[fionmacool]

Nice drawings Mike.

[Klog]

Absolutely Fabulous, Mike
Al Klagge
Teton Timberframe

[pbacot]

Great work Mike! (I thought I posted earlier). Appreciate you sharing the inspiring drawings and process!

[TommyK]

I first started using Layout 3 years ago. Attached is one of my earliest pieces of work that I did in 2012.

For the section cut, I used conventional 2D CAD (after fleshing out a section cut taken from Sketchup), exported to PDF, then imported it into Layout, with the Sketchup model section view as the backdrop. If I were to do it again, I don’t think I would bother with the 2D CAD program, but simply add pattern fills to Section Cut Face in Sketchup.

Also a Construction Schematic, all taken from one Sketchup Model. It involved assigning the different construction stages as layers on different groups of geometries. I would only consider doing this for the smallest of projects in future.

I’m very envious of the high level of quality I am seeing in this post, though. I have a lot to live up to!

[pbacot]

Nice drawings Tommy. I think Though, in the future, you should be able to post better resolution, so we can enjoy it more. Looks like you've used SU to evolve your product.

[bmike]

Update on the Round Barn. Its still going up.
Can't really share much... but I've been asked to help template the slate roof.
3 different pitches.
80' dia footprint.
Tapers everywhere.

Concept below, for the middle pitch.
Getting as built conditions from the builder this week. Then will have to generate the slates.
They want to pre-cut as much as they can... over 6000 slates in the lower roof alone.

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[otb designworks]

Awesome! Here's hoping the improved vector rendering is, in fact, improved, huh?

Labeling is going to be a treat too, I would image. Sweet frame, btw!

[pbacot]

That's beautiful, Mike. So inspiring while I schlog along with my residential work. Can I come and sweep your studio? Actually it really is encouraging to see this work.

[cotty]

[bmike]

@pbacot said:

That's beautiful, Mike. So inspiring while I schlog along with my residential work. Can I come and sweep your studio? Actually it really is encouraging to see this work.

Thanks!
Sweep? Ha. You'll trip over the kids toys and have to fight the dog to get in... my commute is up the stairs to my office.

Still amazed that the barn is going to be a working barn. Incredible, really, that they are doing this.

[caronte01]

Hey all.

I've been watching this thread for a while, trying to develop my su/layout workflow based on what' i've seen here and elsewhere. I've produced 1 full set of cd and 2.5 set of permit drawings using su/lo so far. Getting better all the time. I have a scrapbook based on my drawing standards.

I write to tell others about the latest plugin I've found.
http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=323%26amp;t=55072 rich sections

Some may be familiar with it, but for thoses who are not, please try it. It makes the process of creating section faces almost automatic, and hatch materials are based on layer or material. Please give it a look. The setup process may seem a bit cumbersome, but it is not, it's just a matter of creating some additional materials. It has improved my workflow immensely.

Btw, I'm not being payed by pgarmyn it is just that good!

Santiago

[rhciv]

Hello SU Pros! I'm all new here and stuff!!
I have found so much great info on this forum. After reviewing this thread there seems to have been a dry-spell where everybody all but gave up on the LO idea. I attempted to build construction docs in LO back with version 6 and found the wall at some point on every project. I have seen the work displayed lately and am feeling enthusiastic that SU may have overcome the barriers that broke the process for me.
I think one of the biggest issues was pixelated lines when printing. This seems to be fixed with rendering the layer before taking to print. Has anyone else had success CD'ing homes to working drawings using only SU & LO? I am using the PRO Trial to see if I can upgrade.

[TommyK]

@rhciv said:

I think one of the biggest issues was pixelated lines when printing. This seems to be fixed with rendering the layer before taking to print. Has anyone else had success CD'ing homes to working drawings using only SU & LO? I am using the PRO Trial to see if I can upgrade.

If the scene that you are trying to render is relatively simple, you can use the "Vector" rendering option on a per scene basis. Vector rendering mode, I believe, outputs vector PDF drawings, so should eliminate any pixelations. This is perfect for construction drawings, where textures are not required. The exported PDF also has the benefit of being smaller in file size. If you need to use complex styles or transparent materials, you should also have decent success with the "Hybrid" mode.

Having said all that, I don't tend to get any issues in "Raster" (the standard) mode, if I output the PDF in "High" resolution setting.

I am planning to go completely SU and LO for my next extension project with my CDs. I am planning to use Skalp for detailed sections. Although it's not even out yet, I am completely won over by their videos!