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      creator 3d
      last edited by

      I’m so sorry, yes I ment “Component”.

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        raduteo
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        Everything was going good untill I reached the plow, it's very odd in shape and I can't get any working technique, if anyone can show me how please do so (with images if possible) and I'm prettymuch done with the locomotive (yay!).

        http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/70/plwcp8.jpg

        Current state:

        http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7791/sfeweqwcz4.jpg

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          cosycat
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          This is set of images I put together as a demo for one of our students. It is not identical to the plough but I think you could probably apply the same sort of technique.
          The final part is done with Booltools but you could use 'intersect with model' if you don't have the plugin


          wing.skp

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            raduteo
            last edited by

            Thanks for the help cosycat, it's almost done:

            http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4329/93925940jz6.jpg

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              raduteo
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              The model is complete and ready to be textured but I made too many groups and componets, I want to delete all the groups/componets and make it one, how do I go on an do that, and "smoothen" the model as in less lines? Thanks.

              http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2521/ultimaxqm6.jpg

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                The simple way is to right click > Explode (down to the level you want to do this).
                However you may wish to keep some repetitive elements (like wheels for instance) components so you'll need to edit (i.e. texture) one only and all others inherit the changes.

                Gai...

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                  raduteo
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                  How do I export the texture, as in save the texture so I can edit it in photoshop, I prefer to make the layout of the locmotive, save the texture and actually apply the colors (photo-texture to be exact) in photoshop, is that possible?

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
                    last edited by

                    Probably (well, from examples I've seen obviously) it is possible although I'm not an experienced PS user.

                    Gai...

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                      raduteo
                      last edited by

                      I'm experienced with PS, so how does one export the texture?

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        But what texture if you only want to texture the model in PS? You can export a non-textured model and texture it in PS OR texture it in SU and eventually maybe tweak that texture in PS and reload it in SU (now it is even easier than before (works only on single faces); Right click the textured area > Texture > Edit texture image... and it will open PS (provided you set it at Window > Preferences > Applications) and whatever changes you make in PS,on saving, they will be immediately reloaded and reflected in SU.

                        Gai...

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                          raduteo
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                          Thank you, and how does one see the polycount of the models.. I see SU shows triangles, is it the same thing?

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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
                            last edited by

                            Window > Model info > Statistics. Triangulated surfaces are generally not good since they are the sign of non-planar geometry/modeling but surely even the least organic model (such as a locomotive) can have them easily. You can "rid" of them showing by smoothing your surfaces (select all > right click > Soften/smooth edges OR do it manually with the Ctrl+Eraser tool)

                            Gai...

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                              raduteo
                              last edited by

                              I see alot of info but I'm not familiar with these statistics, which is the entire polycount of the model?

                              http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/6388/sdfwqbg0.jpg

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                                Gaieus
                                last edited by

                                Edges (and faces). In fact, edges AND faces would be fully correct (and in true relationship) only if everything were triangulated although a lot of faces could still share the same edges.

                                So mostly edges.

                                Gai...

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                                  raduteo
                                  last edited by

                                  How does one optimise the model besides soften edges, if possible?
                                  As my first model it has tiny gaps and such and I'm trying to prep it up for texturing, also about the groups, i have too many (over 200), just clicking expand will elimiante the group (but not the item that inside)? I wan to delete all groups and start regruping everything properly, how do I go on with the task? Thanks for having patience.

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                                  • GaieusG Offline
                                    Gaieus
                                    last edited by

                                    After you exploded the outer "shell" group, there may be nested groups inside but everything is still selected. Just right click again and go on exploding until you are done with everything.

                                    I'm still not sure however that this is the best idea you can do with such a complex model. Once exploded, it will be hard to precisely select what you want to include into a group.

                                    You can always "heal" tiny gaps (within the same context - i.e. in a group or in the model if everything is exploded) by redrawing an edge of what's supposed to be a (coplanar) face. Intersection can also help al ot (I see that the two halves in your model do not precisely line up with each other).

                                    Gai...

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                                      Marian
                                      last edited by

                                      Nice, model..although i see you have some faces that need to be reversed(the blue ones), otherwise it could creat problems with renders and such..and also a nice clean model is better:P
                                      For a beginner you did well, so congratulions are order...
                                      Food fo though, as you got right the basic shape...you could start modelling the details rather than putting texture, or you could do both.
                                      Cheers, happy sketching.

                                      http://marian87.deviantart.com/

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                                        raduteo
                                        last edited by

                                        Thank you, I already made it relatively detailed but since I didn't know the polycount I called it done, some details:

                                        http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3903/53417025pr4.jpg

                                        It's going to be exported and put in Microsoft Train Simulator so I have to texture it but first I have to regropu everything and it's a pain. And some panels dont quite fit but its too late to correct. 😕

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                                          raduteo
                                          last edited by

                                          is there a UV mapping plugin or something like that? I searched but didn't find anything but I'm desperately hoping there is, or a 3rd pary UV mapping program that works well with sketchup?
                                          Thanks.

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                                          • BurkhardB Offline
                                            Burkhard
                                            last edited by

                                            Search for UVTools and you'll find it.

                                            [http://www.ia-plus.de(http://www.ia-plus.de)]

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