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    • MatheronM Offline
      Matheron
      last edited by

      It would be great if Selection Toys could find solids and nonsolids.

      This feature would turn Selection Toys to a powerful solid modelling aid, along with Solid Inspector. We would use it all the time.

      This could be done by adding to the context menu Select Only > the two entries:

      Solids
      Nonsolids

      Likewise, the context menu Deselect > could contain:

      Solids
      Nonsolids

      Being able to quickly find all solids or all nonsolids would be extremely useful for preparing complex models for 3D printing. Typically, the user want to find all nonsolids, since nonsolids block printability. Then the user would fix nonsolids with Solid Inspector and manual work.

      This means that optimally, Selection Toys ought not just to look at the current context. It should parse the entire object hierarchy, starting from the current context. It also means that identifying solids along object branches should be exclusive, while identifying non-solids along object branches should be inclusive:

      • When using Select Only > Solids, Selection Toys should only select groups and components that have 100% solids all the way down to all raw geometry.

      • When using Select Only > Nonsolids, Selection Toys should select all groups and components that contain at least one nonsolid.

      Sketchup (via Entity Info) currently does not report a group or component containing 100% solid groups or components as a solid. So this flag cannot be used. You have to look at the leaves first and work your way back up to the current context. Selection Toys should be able to correctly report contexts that contain both raw geomety and further groups and components.

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      • MatheronM Offline
        Matheron
        last edited by

        It would be good if Selection Toys could have the option to use a selection of any containers (components and groups) and convert each into a group:

        Selection Toys
        Instances -> Convert into groups

        Right now, Selection Toys has the ability to convert groups into components. However, sometimes the reverse is needed - to convert all components into groups (or make them individually unique components).

        I have not come across this functionality in any other extension.

        Use case: Several other extensions, e.g. some boolean tools, rely on geometry that is unique for correct operation. For example, when using a large solid volume to subtract from several hundreds of solid components at once, where the resulting intersections may cut each component at different places, some boolean tools will not work well with components. But they do work well with groups, since they are already unique.

        It is a fringe case, but sometimes it is needed and it should be easy to implement.

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        • BoxB Offline
          Box
          last edited by

          @matheron said:

          (or make them individually unique components).
          I have not come across this functionality in any other extension.

          The late great Honoluludesktop has a plugin for this.
          https://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=make_all_unique

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          • jujuJ Offline
            juju
            last edited by

            You can also take a look at nz_ConvertMe, not free but won't break the bank either, I've used it and was satisfied.

            Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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            • MatheronM Offline
              Matheron
              last edited by

              Thank you for the extension links.

              Even more elegant would be if "convert into groups" would be baked into Selection Toys.

              However, the much more important wish is in my previous post - to make Selection Toys able to filter for solids and nonsolids.

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                Semik
                last edited by

                Dear, I have problem with Selection Toys floating toolbar. I lost it when I dragged it to the edge of screen. Now I can use only menu on right mouse button. I tried to remove and reinstall the plugin but I still can't see the toolbar. I use SketchUp 2018 Pro at MacPro with High Sierra. Does anybody has the idea (trick) how to solve this problem?

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                • JClementsJ Offline
                  JClements
                  last edited by

                  Do you have dual monitor? If so and you are only using one, then connect to a second monitor and then drag the entire toolbar into the first monitor,

                  John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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                    Semik
                    last edited by

                    @jclements said:

                    Do you have dual monitor? If so and you are only using one, then connect to a second monitor and then drag the entire toolbar into the first monitor,

                    Thank you! I did it. I was using a tablet with video cable which was connected to computer. Computer detected the second monitor.

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                    • E Offline
                      Einstein
                      last edited by

                      Hi!

                      I'd have a couple ideas for selection methods.

                      One would be selecting edges by crease, which is SubD parameter - one could select only creased or non-creased edges or even the ones within certain crease range (0-1), for example: select only edges with crease value from 0.5 to 1. This would significantly improve subdivision modelling workflow.

                      Another is adding "sharp edges" definition next to soft, smooth and hidden edges. I know this is achievable by reversing selection and subtracting faces from selection, but it adds a couple of extra steps. I'd gladly assign hotkey for selecting only sharp edges cuz I do it a lot.

                      Filtering out solid groups/ components would also be a cool feature!

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                      • E Offline
                        Einstein
                        last edited by

                        "Select (only)/ deselect stray edges" would be very useful too!
                        The definition of a stray edge would be the same as in Clean Up tools.

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                          Einstein
                          last edited by

                          Hello,
                          Is this thread totally dead?
                          I was wondering if there's a chance of implementing my suggestions 😄

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                          • I Offline
                            icpu
                            last edited by

                            Bug report for SketchUp 2023

                            Convert Group into components behaves weirdly in SketchUp 2023
                            After converting:
                            Selected Group not immediately change to component in entity info
                            All copy group when selected is not shown in entity info when selected
                            as if there is no object selected, but it is selected in viewport (blue bounding box)

                            It also creates new exactly same item on the first copy ever created,
                            reulting in 2 object exactly the same, the group and the component

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                            • I Offline
                              icpu
                              last edited by

                              Bug report in SketchUp 2023

                              Convert group behaves weirdly.

                              1. Converted group when converted is not shown in entity info
                              2. All copy of the group, including those are not selected are converted to component
                              3. It creates a duplicate of the group on the first ever copy of the group ever created,
                                resulting in 2 exact looking object but 1st on is a group, the 2nd is a component
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                              • designerbursaD Offline
                                designerbursa
                                last edited by

                                When I install this plugin "ae_LaunchUp"; I get the console error

                                C:/Users/User/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2021/SketchUp/Plugins/tt_selection_toys/json.rb:39:in each' C:/Users/User/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2021/SketchUp/Plugins/tt_selection_toys/ui_manager.rb:280:in build_menus'
                                C:/Users/User/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2021/SketchUp/Plugins/tt_selection_toys/ui_manager.rb:262:in `block (2 levels) in build_ui'

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                                • C Offline
                                  carlosmgilp
                                  last edited by

                                  Hello how are you.
                                  First, thank you for this great tool and the collaboration for everyone.

                                  What is the difference between Border Edges and Selection Border?

                                  You could add icons for Border Edges and Selection Border.
                                  And so I can add it to the toolbar.

                                  Select border.jpg

                                  I also wanted to ask you, if you can add a new border selection tool with vertices.

                                  Select border with vetex.jpg

                                  If you can help me, I would appreciate it with all my heart.
                                  Greetings.

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                                    roberG66
                                    last edited by

                                    a little late to the game (by 20 yrs or so) 😊 but that "Selection Toys is ON-POINT!! thanks man!

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