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    toxicvoxel
    last edited by 25 Aug 2008, 19:46

    This question recently came up:
    Which of the rendering engines that support Sketchup matches the the Sketchup camera exactly? This is of specific interest when overlaying Sketchup linework over rendered output.
    If users of the many engines can report on this it would be very helpful.

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      Frederik
      last edited by 25 Aug 2008, 20:06

      Kerkythea can do this... πŸ˜‰

      On the frontpage of the Getting Started - KT2008 Echo tutorial, you can see an image made using a KT render and a direct SU export merged together... πŸ˜‰
      GS-SU2KT.jpg
      Perhaps equally important to note... It's very simple to do actually... πŸ˜„

      As you may know, the scenes you create in SU will get exported as camera positions in KT...
      So if you export a 2D graphic from SU and you render the same scene in KT, you'll get identical images, which you can merge in a post pro... πŸ˜‰

      Cheers
      Kim Frederik

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        Stinkie
        last edited by 25 Aug 2008, 20:15

        @unknownuser said:

        Same goes for Indigo.

        Only to a certain extent, AFAIK: Indigo doesn't support SU's 2 point perspective. Neither does Maxwell for that matter. There's ways around it, though.

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          AndriyG81
          last edited by 25 Aug 2008, 20:21

          v-ray does a great job
          I did a project where I overplayed rendered image with line work from sketchup

          http://andriyg.com

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            DavidBoulder
            last edited by 26 Aug 2008, 02:12

            While we are on the subject, how about orthographic rendering. KT does, but not sure about others. Along the same lines, any rendering apps play well with sections. Using KT I have to physically slice the model. But then shadows and lighting are based on cut model. What I'd like for example is the ability to do in room lighting of interior plan. (Backed on textures in SU would accomplish this.

            --

            David Goldwasser
            OpenStudio Developer
            National Renewable Energy Laboratory

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              Gaieus
              last edited by 26 Aug 2008, 07:32

              Podium can also match camera positions. See this little "animation" Pete (solo) presented in 3d BaseCamp.

              [flash=425,344:3bwl2l5v]http://www.youtube.com/v/kMUtOAXYjDk&rel=0&color1=11645361&color2=13619151&hl=en&fs=1[/flash:3bwl2l5v]

              Gai...

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                plot-paris
                last edited by 26 Aug 2008, 08:01

                some nice images Solo produced there. his model skills are truely intimidating. πŸ˜„

                concerning the section cuts...
                I know that Maxwell supports clipping cut planes - you define a minimum distance and a maximum distance from the camera; and everything beyond these borders is not shown in the render.

                surely one could implement an automatic link of section planes in SketchUp to this clipping function in indigo. however, then the question would arrise how maxwell is supposed to behave when encountering multiple section cuts.

                for whaat to implement it into SkIndigo it first needs to be incorporated in Indigo it self, I am afraid. or does anyone know, if there is already a similar function?

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                  Gaieus
                  last edited by 26 Aug 2008, 08:29

                  It seems that section planes are now supported by Kerkythea (more exactly by Tomasz' SU2KT plugin) as demonstrated in this post (the second image).

                  As I heard, displacement map is likely to be a future feature as well - then I guess I'll stick to Kerky. Great program and has a great and helpful community.

                  Gai...

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                    Frederik
                    last edited by 26 Aug 2008, 08:35

                    As far as I know, none of the known render applications supports SU section planes... 😞

                    Cheers
                    Kim Frederik

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                      Gaieus
                      last edited by 26 Aug 2008, 08:37

                      Then how did he make that section plane?

                      Gai...

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                        Gaieus
                        last edited by 26 Aug 2008, 13:59

                        You can do this in both apps manually.

                        Gai...

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                          Julius
                          last edited by 26 Aug 2008, 14:00

                          @frederik said:

                          Kerkythea can do this... πŸ˜‰

                          On the frontpage of the Getting Started - KT2008 Echo tutorial, you can see an image made using a KT render and a direct SU export merged together... πŸ˜‰
                          [attachment=0:2djtlhwc]<!-- ia0 -->GS-SU2KT.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:2djtlhwc]
                          Perhaps equally important to note... It's very simple to do actually... πŸ˜„

                          As you may know, the scenes you create in SU will get exported as camera positions in KT...
                          So if you export a 2D graphic from SU and you render the same scene in KT, you'll get identical images, which you can merge in a post pro... πŸ˜‰

                          what if i want to change the dimensions?

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                            Julius
                            last edited by 26 Aug 2008, 14:01

                            @gaieus said:

                            You can do this in both apps manually.

                            mmm...i think the best way is to crop the final image.

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                              Gaieus
                              last edited by 26 Aug 2008, 14:18

                              Well,if you want to change the dimensions,yes. I meant the size first - sorry for the misunderstanding.

                              Gai...

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