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    • ToboboT Offline
      Tobobo
      last edited by

      I have had the same issue with a few of my models not sure what the solution is. Sorry I couldn't help, but at least we are not alone

      Toby

      Philippians 4:13

      I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

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      • DavidBoulderD Offline
        DavidBoulder
        last edited by

        Yep, your test files have same results on my mac.

        I've had similar issues to this where scene is fine in SketchUp, but that scene placed in Layout exhibits odd shadow behavior.

        --

        David Goldwasser
        OpenStudio Developer
        National Renewable Energy Laboratory

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        • H Offline
          HFM
          last edited by

          unmark the 'shadow Settings' in scene manager on each tab, activate shadow settings, click around so the shadow will update and voila! 😍

          after these steps turn back on the shadow Settings in the scene manager and your done

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          • C Offline
            caronte01
            last edited by

            I have a file that has that problem also. I believe it has something to do with having different north orientations on different views.

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            • T Offline
              toxicvoxel
              last edited by

              HFM,

              @unknownuser said:

              ....after these steps turn back on the shadow Settings in the scene manager and your done

              It works until you close the file down and reopen it. When you activate the tab it's the same old problem.
              Or am I misunderstanding your instructions?

              Carento01,

              @unknownuser said:

              I believe it has something to do with having different north orientations on different views.

              North is consistently oriented in all tabs so I doubt if that is the problem.

              Thanks for your input anyway.

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              • Chris FullmerC Offline
                Chris Fullmer
                last edited by

                I got it!

                Turn on animation between scenes. You can put it down to "0" if you'd like, but this will fix it.

                That being said, I have no idea why this is. I'm guessing its an odd glitch inside the file, perhaps having to do with how it was created. But maybe not, maybe it can happen in any SU file.

                I noticed you had a custom location set based on long/lat. Did that get imported with some cad or GIS program? or did you input it?

                This is an odd bug. I'll keep playing with it and see if I can recreate it from scratch so it can be submitted to Google with complete steps. Or maybe they can look at the insides of the file to see what is being messed up when the animation on/off gets switched. Anyhow, cool bug.

                Chris

                Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                All my Plugins I've written

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                • Chris FullmerC Offline
                  Chris Fullmer
                  last edited by

                  ok, I am totally able to recreate this.

                  1. Make a simple box model.
                  2. Turn off animation between scenes.
                  3. Change location from default. I am using something in the UK. I'll test later to see if that is necessary. I'm thinking it might be since its on the other side of the world from the default Boulder, Colorado, USA location.
                  4. Turn on shadows and set it to morning.
                  5. Make a scene.
                  6. Change shadows to evening and make a new scene.
                  7. Save model
                  8. Close and re-open.
                  9. click on scenes and at least one will be messed up.

                  OK, I just tested it using Boulder as default location. It doesn't mess up the way it does if you use something around the world. There is something quirky here and it appears to have to do with the custom location, or the country selected or the time zone. I haven't been able to pin this one down 100%, but at any rate, its not behaving as desired.

                  Chris

                  Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                  All my Plugins I've written

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                  • H Offline
                    HFM
                    last edited by

                    @toxicvoxel said:

                    HFM,

                    @unknownuser said:

                    ....after these steps turn back on the shadow Settings in the scene manager and your done

                    It works until you close the file down and reopen it. When you activate the tab it's the same old problem.
                    Or am I misunderstanding your instructions?

                    Carento01,

                    @unknownuser said:

                    I believe it has something to do with having different north orientations on different views.

                    North is consistently oriented in all tabs so I doubt if that is the problem.

                    Thanks for your input anyway.

                    My fault entirely, didn't check that πŸ˜•

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                    • T Offline
                      toxicvoxel
                      last edited by

                      Chris,
                      You're the man! - Activating animations fixed it.
                      Thanks for taking the time to look into it.

                      And yes the custom location was set up in SU.

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                      • C Offline
                        caronte01
                        last edited by

                        Chris, cool, that solves it. In my file I have a custom location also....

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                        • plot-parisP Offline
                          plot-paris
                          last edited by

                          Chris, I am impressed how systematically you tracked down the bug. well done! πŸ‘

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                          • ToboboT Offline
                            Tobobo
                            last edited by

                            So just to clarify,

                            It only happens when you set the page transitions to 0?

                            Toby

                            Philippians 4:13

                            I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

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                            • Chris FullmerC Offline
                              Chris Fullmer
                              last edited by

                              Glad it fixed the problem for you Toxicvoxel and Caronte01. I'd imagine its not the kind of bug they would find in Boulder since it seems to require the location or country or something be set around the world AND have animations turned off. Kind of a sly little bug.

                              Ahh, thanks Jakob (plot-Paris). Yeah, after working on figuring it out I had about 20 versions of the file saved to my desktop where I had tried different methods to fix it. Then once I did finally fix it, I had tweaked so many settings it took a while to figure out which setting was really the offender. I'm still not 100% sure where the problem lies, but like I said, its something to do with the custom location when u have turned off animation.

                              So to clarify, its not when animations are set to 0, its whent hey are turned off completely. A workaround if you don't want animations on is to turn on animations but set them to zero. That will make it appear as though animations are off, and it will not bug the shadows system.

                              Chris

                              Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                              All my Plugins I've written

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                              • T Offline
                                toxicvoxel
                                last edited by

                                In the mean time I received this response from Google support which is a little disappointing because it doesn't fix the problem.
                                They seem to think page shadow information is saved in the style definition!

                                @unknownuser said:

                                Google Help
                                to me

                                show details 7:40 PM (3 hours ago)

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                                Hi,

                                Thank you for your note. We understand you're encountering some problems
                                with shadow information on page tabs. We've evaluated your file, and it
                                appears as though you aren't saving style information before saving and
                                closing the SketchUp file. SketchUp can automatically prompt you to save
                                these settings if you browse to "SketchUp" > "Preferences" > "General" and
                                check the option to "Warn of style change when creating scene." When you
                                update your scene you'll be prompted with a warning message, and you'll
                                want to "Update the selected style" then update the scene. Alternatively,
                                if you have the Styles menu open, you'll see a circular arrow pair in the
                                top left corner indicating that your new style hasn't been saved. Once we
                                saved your scene, the shadow information appeared to work correctly
                                between tabs.

                                If you need further assistance, please let us know.

                                Regards,
                                The Google Team

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                                • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                  Mike Lucey
                                  last edited by

                                  100% Chris, Well done πŸ‘

                                  Its great to have so many experts here πŸ‘

                                  Mike

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                                  • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                    Chris Fullmer
                                    last edited by

                                    Ahh, thanks Mike.

                                    Well, I agree, that response from google is a bit underwhelming because that was the very first thing I tried too and it definitely does not work.

                                    I'll see if I can drum up a bit more support from them for you. I think this is a great bug that should be looked at.

                                    Chris

                                    Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                    All my Plugins I've written

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