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    • fredo6F Offline
      fredo6
      last edited by

      For the start and end point, with the FreeHand tool, make sure you activate the inferencing so that they are on the border edges.

      Fredo

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      • jgbJ Offline
        jgb
        last edited by

        Here's how I transfer flat shapes onto a curved surface. I do this on my airplane designs to place a very strict outline onto a curved fairing surface. It is far more accurate to draw a curve on a flat face than try to draw that curve on a curve, Fredo Tools on Surface notwithstanding.

        The following set of screen caps should explain it. Ask me if you need more info.

        The 2 walls, each grouped.

        Copy the colored wall near the curved wall

        Edit, Push/Pull every second segment through the curved wall.

        Scale the width to fit the curved wall.

        Edit curved wall and intersect with model.  This transfers the colored curves.

        Delete the copy of the extruded flat wall.

        Edit the curved wall and color each segment accordingly

        Hope that helps.


        jgb

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        • S Offline
          stulutions
          last edited by

          Fredo, How do I activate inferencing on the freehand tool? I only see it as a "without inferencing" option.

          DAve R - How do i share that part of my model? It's far from top secret or elaborate, as I am a complete novice, so I'm not concerned with sharing the whole original file if that will help. But in the future that might be handy to know, how to share just a portion of the file?

          jgb - I just saw your reply, so am literally just about to read through it.

          THanks guys!

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          • S Offline
            stulutions
            last edited by

            Hello,

            I signed up just to get this plugin (which is my first!). Thank you.

            Pretty novice user.

            I have a contoured surface that I wish to break up into segments of freehand divisions so that I can colour them individually. I can do it on flat surfaces quite easily but have no idea how to do it on this curved surface.

            Hopefully my sequence of attached images will make it clear what I am trying to accomplish.

            Thanks for any assistance. It is appreciated!
            s


            this is a flat wall that shows how i would like the curved wall to be editable


            ![this is my "finished" wall](/uploads/imported_attachments/tpND_2.png "this is my "finished" wall")


            with the curved wall in front of it


            using the plugin I was able to freehand the line in i wanted


            ![but when i go to select just the bottom or top "chunk" of what i would like to think is my new divisions, it selects the entire face so i can't colour them individually](/uploads/imported_attachments/8U1c_5.png "but when i go to select just the bottom or top "chunk" of what i would like to think is my new divisions, it selects the entire face so i can't colour them individually")

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            • Dave RD Offline
              Dave R
              last edited by

              @stulutions said:

              DAve R - How do i share that part of my model? It's far from top secret or elaborate, as I am a complete novice, so I'm not concerned with sharing the whole original file if that will help. But in the future that might be handy to know, how to share just a portion of the file?

              To share just part of the file, you could select that part and copy it to the clipboard (Edit>Copy) and then open a fresh SketchUp session and use Edit>Paste or better, Edit>Paste in place. Then save that file.

              Or maybe in this case you can just upload the whole thing.

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              • S Offline
                stulutions
                last edited by

                jgb, i was able to accomplish that with your method, thanks!

                its good enough for what i need really, but why are my lines all crude looking compared to the nice smooth ones that your example shows?

                thanks again!


                2016-03-13_1437.png

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                • cottyC Offline
                  cotty
                  last edited by

                  You can disable the endpoints in the style settings.

                  my SketchUp gallery

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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
                    last edited by

                    @stulutions said:

                    but why are my lines all crude looking compared to the nice smooth ones that your example shows?

                    thanks again!

                    The style you have selected with the template has endpoints and extensions turned on. You can edit those out in the Edit tab of the Styles window.

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                    • S Offline
                      stulutions
                      last edited by

                      you guys are awesome...thanks....

                      thats good for now, but im sure ill be back soon! haha

                      loving sketchup...got a 3d connexion and i borrowed/stole my wife's cintiq 13hd tablet, what an amazing combo of tools!

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                      • jgbJ Offline
                        jgb
                        last edited by

                        The difference is that you have "Display endpoints" turned on, and mine are off.

                        Now the weird part.
                        I set my line styles by a toolbar addin that has several types of line styles to select from.
                        It is supposed to replicate the menu items standard in SU. In this case, VIEW - EDGE STYLES.

                        But my SU menu does NOT have "Display Endpoints" which is very surprising.

                        Mind you, I have been using SU for many years and with a lot of addons, to the extent that now I really don't know what many functions are native SU or part of an addon.

                        ![Toolbar "Display Endpoints" not in SU menu](/uploads/imported_attachments/G1ze_Scrn-Cap474.jpg "Toolbar "Display Endpoints" not in SU menu")

                        Maybe someone else can explain this, but I cannot find "Display Endpoints" in any SU menu.


                        jgb

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
                          last edited by

                          Endpoints and Extensions are controlled in the Styles window which you can get to via the Window menu or in the Default Tray in SU2016 for PC.

                          Screenshot - 3_14_2016 , 1_40_00 PM.png

                          there are many more style setting options available in the Styles window than you can access through the View menu.

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                          • jgbJ Offline
                            jgb
                            last edited by

                            Thank you Dave.

                            I looked quickly at Styles, but not at that level below.


                            jgb

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                            • A Offline
                              AsiaStarArt
                              last edited by

                              😎 😎 😎 谒谒!

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                              • H Offline
                                Hannessy
                                last edited by

                                Hello,

                                I was excited finally to use this wonderful tool, but then this:

                                ToolsOnSurface 2.2a: Error starting up plugin (creating menus and icons)
                                undefined method declare_topmenu' for #<Traductor::Plugin:0x007fe1c8dcf6e8> [in bootstrap_OnSurface.rb: - #startup(): line 324]

                                /Users/Library/Application Support/SketchUp 2016/SketchUp/Plugins/Fredo6_!LibFredo6/Lib6Core.rb:959:in `rescue in block in effective_load_part2'

                                can someone help me? Thank you!

                                Greetz

                                Hannessy

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Did you install it from the latest downloaded RBZ using the Preferences > Extensions > Install Extensions... button ?

                                  Did you also install the latest LibFredo ?

                                  This Library is needed by almost all of Fredo's tools...

                                  Install and restart SketchUp to see what happens...

                                  TIG

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    If you have copied older files over from another SketchUp version you might have some old files ?
                                    I suggest you open your Plugins folder and manually delete any subfolders and loader RB files that clearly relate to Fredo's tools/lib and reinstall them all.

                                    Fredo will probably chip in when he reads this...

                                    TIG

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                                    • R Offline
                                      rmsnmz
                                      last edited by

                                      I get an error when I install this: "Installation of fredo6_ToolsOnSurface is probably incorrect. Subfolder is missing." Any insight from anyone?

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                                      • Dave RD Offline
                                        Dave R
                                        last edited by

                                        How are you attempting to install it? What version of SketchUp? What operating system? Your profile doesn't say. If you want help you have to give us some useful information.

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                                        • R Offline
                                          rmsnmz
                                          last edited by

                                          @dave r said:

                                          How are you attempting to install it? What version of SketchUp? What operating system? Your profile doesn't say. If you want help you have to give us some useful information.

                                          Yes, trying to install this extension. Su 2016 + Windows 7 Pro. And I see the same error message when try to install some of the Fredo's other extensions as well; topo shaper, visu hole and the animator. Others install ok.

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                                          • Dave RD Offline
                                            Dave R
                                            last edited by

                                            Unfortunately you failed to answer my question about how you are attempting to install it. Please tell us HOW you are installing them. And give us the exact text of the error message you are getting. Help us help you.

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