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    Joint Push Pull Classic (Old version) - v2.2a - 26 Apr 17

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    • A Offline
      a4chitect
      last edited by

      Perfect, perfect!!!!

      one of the best integrated script
      perfect 'sketchup' feeling
      fantastic results!!

      thank you very much!

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      • R Offline
        remus
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        Thanks very much, this plugin feels more like a stanard SU tool tha a ruby.

        http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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          Daniel S
          last edited by

          Totally Amazing!!
          How can i set for default for Joint, Vector and Normal Push pull in the finishing options "thickening" instead "erase original faces"?? it´s easy with the TAB or F5 keys... but when i restart SketchUp i have to set my defaults again.

          Thank you,
          Daniel S

          PS. It´s possible to make the plugin work like the SketchUp push/pull? I mean... now you must select at least one face before running the plugin... and after doing the PP you have to select the icon again to PP another face....

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          • fredo6F Offline
            fredo6
            last edited by

            @daniel s said:

            Totally Amazing!!
            How can i set for default for Joint, Vector and Normal Push pull in the finishing options "thickening" instead "erase original faces"?? it´s easy with the TAB or F5 keys... but when i restart SketchUp i have to set my defaults again.

            Edit the rb file, line 334, and change @option_finishing = 'D' to @option_finishing = 'K'

            @daniel s said:

            PS. It´s possible to make the plugin work like the SketchUp push/pull? I mean... now you must select at least one face before running the plugin... and after doing the PP you have to select the icon again to PP another face....

            This would only work in single-face push pull (but there would be no difference compared to the Sketchup tool). Because you need to be multi-face, you have to select the faces first. Remember that 2 successive JPP may not be equivalent to a single one on the total set of faces!

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            • jeff hammondJ Offline
              jeff hammond
              last edited by

              that's great.. i like the feel much better than the first one.. it's faster and more intuitive for me..

              a couple of the tool bar icons are showing up blurry.. any idea why?

              Picture 2.jpg

              dotdotdot

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                Daniel S
                last edited by

                @unknownuser said:

                Edit the rb file, line 334, and change @option_finishing = 'D' to @option_finishing = 'K'

                Thank you! it´s working like i wanted!

                @unknownuser said:

                This would only work in single-face push pull (but there would be no difference compared to the Sketchup tool). Because you need to be multi-face, you have to select the faces first. Remember that 2 successive JPP may not be equivalent to a single one on the total set of faces!

                i understand... the problem is single-face or multi-face...
                it´s like the SketchUp push/pull vs your normal push/pull.
                In theory is better your normal push/pull because you can extrude single and multi faces... but the SU push/pull is faster... because it auto-selects faces on hover instead having to select faces first. Of course that are used in different situations but i think that you understand what i try to say.
                SketchUp has a lot of problems with curves faces (including no offset) ... This is one of the features that i was waiting for SU7... use the SU push/pull for curved faces... that is exactly your JPP for single faces.
                I attach a video example of what i´m trying to say...

                Daniel S


                PP vs JPP video.zip


                Other problem with curved faces.. you cannot offset

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                  Whaat
                  last edited by

                  I am really impressed by this script! Outstanding work!

                  SketchUp Plugins for Professionals

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                  • JClementsJ Offline
                    JClements
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                    As mentioned by others, this really is an incredibly well thought out/well executed/all inclusive/well documented script. Thank you for your superb effort, Fredo

                    ===============================================

                    Curved Offset.

                    Yes, I was hoping there would be a way to use a combination of the existing JPP options to trick it into producing a "multi-facet"-offset.

                    ===============================================

                    There is a small typo. There is a right-parenthesis following "Thickening" in the Create Border Faces drop-down list.

                    ===============================================

                    "The editor makes full usage of the Sketchup inference mechanism so that you can
                    visually adjust the distance by reference to a particular point in your model, as in most
                    Sketchup tools. However, when you drag, you may want to skip some inferences. For
                    this, just keep the SHIFT key pressed down, while dragging faces."

                    For me, keeping the SHIFT key depressed doesn't appear to do anything. The black triangle at the cursor seems to be inferencing to other geometry. Perhaps I am misinterpreting its usage?

                    John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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                    • B Offline
                      bellwells
                      last edited by

                      Fredo, this is a SIGNIFICANT improvement over the last version. What a tremendously useful tool. Thank you very much!!

                      Ron

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                      • boofredlayB Offline
                        boofredlay
                        last edited by

                        Brilliant new interface, thanks. 😍

                        http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                        • boofredlayB Offline
                          boofredlay
                          last edited by

                          Is it possible for this script to explode the curve after it is run? Or at least segment it into parts. It would cut down on a step if you are trying to erase lines for a cleaner face. See image.


                          ExplodeCurve.jpg

                          http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
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                            @unknownuser said:

                            ...I also very much want to see an offset tool for curved surfaces.
                            Can it be done?

                            Well, to me this is practically theoffset tool for curved surfaces. Or am I missing something?

                            Gai...

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                            • soloS Offline
                              solo
                              last edited by

                              Thank you so very much for this amazing plugin.

                              This is another step towards SU being able one day to model organic shapes with ease.

                              The idea of an offset tool for curved surfaces would be fantastic.

                              We have so many talented coders here that I believe Google is sitting back watching how SU is upgrading itself without much input from them as the users have given this amazing app a life of it's own.

                              OT: Now if only we can get some uber geek help on the texture mapping thing.

                              http://www.solos-art.com

                              If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                              • fredo6F Offline
                                fredo6
                                last edited by

                                @unknownuser said:

                                Is it possible for this script to explode the curve after it is run? Or at least segment it into parts. It would cut down on a step if you are trying to erase lines for a cleaner face. See image.

                                I put precisely some code to keep curves on the original surface (to be as less destructive as possible). Note however that the generated corresponding contour is not welded as a curve. Is it the situation you have?

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                                • fredo6F Offline
                                  fredo6
                                  last edited by

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  that's great.. i like the feel much better than the first one.. it's faster and more intuitive for me..

                                  a couple of the tool bar icons are showing up blurry.. any idea why?

                                  I guess you are on Mac.
                                  No idea of what happens with the PNG files, especially because only 2 of them appears in the 'fog'. They all come from the same source (thanks to Daniel S. who designed them). One idea, make sure you got all 5 icons of the latest version (they are all 24 x 24). The two I designed and published in the initial version were 32x32.

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                                  • fredo6F Offline
                                    fredo6
                                    last edited by

                                    On offset tool for curved surfaces:

                                    I am not totally clear on what several of you are targeting. Personally, I see 2 categories of such surface offset tool:

                                    1. Only offsets the external border edges of the surface. This means for instance that all interior faces are left untouched. This does not exist in native Sketchup but can easily be done by a script. Actually the faces are just there to give the overall contour the planes for offsetting and the direction interior / exterior.
                                      First method - Offset only the border contour

                                    2. Deform continuously all faces of the model to accommodate the offset of the contour. In such a case, I think it would always change (even slightly) the shape of the overall surface. The best is probably to Scale the surface in all directions, and then move it to the closest position to fit the original surface. This can also easily be automated by a script.
                                      Second method - Scale up the whole surface and try to fit to the original surface

                                    Maybe I lack imagination and there are other forms of surface offset someone would think of!?

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                                    • fredo6F Offline
                                      fredo6
                                      last edited by

                                      @jclements said:

                                      "The editor makes full usage of the Sketchup inference mechanism so that you can
                                      visually adjust the distance by reference to a particular point in your model, as in most
                                      Sketchup tools. However, when you drag, you may want to skip some inferences. For
                                      this, just keep the SHIFT key pressed down, while dragging faces."

                                      For me, keeping the SHIFT key depressed doesn't appear to do anything. The black triangle at the cursor seems to be inferencing to other geometry. Perhaps I am misinterpreting its usage?

                                      The black triangle will seem to 'block' on other geometry, but it position will be ignored when you drag the faces. So inference is skipped 'geometrically', but I did not find a way to skip it 'visually'. Hope this answers your question.

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                                        Daniel S
                                        last edited by

                                        About the icons.. i made the two that are blurry on mac on a different day.. so perhaps i export the icons with different settings...
                                        Jeff here i attach the two icons again... tell me if this fixes the problem (i don´t have a Mac for testing).

                                        And about the offset the best method for me will be option nº 1: Only offsets the external border edges of the surface.

                                        Daniel S


                                        Icons for Mac.zip


                                        offset.skp


                                        offset.jpg

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                                        • U Offline
                                          urs0815
                                          last edited by

                                          hallo Daniel,

                                          I´ve tested the 2 icons on my mac -> same problem as before 😕

                                          but the icon of the very first edition of jpp were OK, so we can use them 😉

                                          urs

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                                            Daniel S
                                            last edited by

                                            Here i made them with other settings... try this ones please


                                            Icons for Mac2.zip

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