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    • monsterzeroM Offline
      monsterzero
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      Holy Cow, dude. Those welds rock! I assume you don't like how the lines pop compared to the rest of the line work. I'm just marveling at the detail. Beautiful stuff.

      I'd love to know your technique for creating those welds. I have some ideas on how to do it, but you seem to have perfected them. I'd love to put some welds on some of my cars models (for close up renders).

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      • marked001M Offline
        marked001
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        aw man.... that's dedication! haha.. i think that looks good for the weld.. maybe twice as many divisions on the face of the weld? looks awesome though..

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        • CraigDC Offline
          CraigD
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          Yeah! Those welds are amazing! Obviously an aluminum frame design with that nice "dime-weld" pattern!

          Really great work!

          Cheers,

          • CraigD

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            rsw
            last edited by

            Thanks for the comments...

            @monsterzero said:

            I'd love to know your technique for creating those welds. I have some ideas on how to do it, but you seem to have perfected them. I'd love to put some welds on some of my cars models (for close up renders).

            Heres a quick (simplified) run through of what I did.
            Note: you need SoapSkinBubble installed for this.
            (click on the images for a larger view)

            I've just used a simple cylinder and a flat plane to show you but the principle should be the same for any shape.

            http://www.rsw3d.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-weld-tutorial/thumbs/thumbs_weld1.jpg

            1. create the outer edges of the weld

              http://www.rsw3d.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-weld-tutorial/thumbs/thumbs_weld2.jpg

            2. Draw arcs between the outer edges of the weld (you probably only need 6 segments at most for this)

              http://www.rsw3d.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-weld-tutorial/thumbs/thumbs_weld3.jpg

              http://www.rsw3d.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-weld-tutorial/thumbs/thumbs_weld4.jpg

            3. Select the edges of one 'weld' and click the creat skin button (the vcb will control the number of divisions for the skin - i chose 5 or 6)

              http://www.rsw3d.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-weld-tutorial/thumbs/thumbs_weld5.jpg

            4. Once the skin has been created, enter the group and soften all the edges.

              http://www.rsw3d.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-weld-tutorial/thumbs/thumbs_weld6.jpg

            5. Exit the group and click the Generate soap bubble button - the vcb control the 'pressure' - try out a few different values to see which works best - I chose about 300.

              http://www.rsw3d.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-weld-tutorial/thumbs/thumbs_weld7.jpg

            6. Repeat 3-5 until you've gone all the way around the joint. (in this instance the weld could have simply been rotated and copied around the cylinder to complete the weld, but for more complicated shapes this obviously won't work, as each part of the weld could be a different shape)

              http://www.rsw3d.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-weld-tutorial/thumbs/thumbs_weld8.jpg

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              3eighty
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              Just another thought...

              Does it look better with a texture applied to the weld...

              http://www.rsw3d.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/sketchup-weld-tutorial/thumbs/thumbs_weld9.jpg

              (Click to enlarge!)

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              • D Offline
                dylan
                last edited by

                This is such nice modelling Richard, welldone.

                It would be nice to place this weld tutorial you created over in the SU Tutorials Forum - it's a very good tut you created.

                http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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                • R Offline
                  rsw
                  last edited by

                  Another update:

                  http://www.rsw3d.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/marin-wolf-ridge/thumbs/thumbs_frame7.jpg

                  (Click to enlarge)

                  @unknownuser said:

                  It would be nice to place this weld tutorial you created over in the SU Tutorials Forum - it's a very good tut you created.

                  Thanks! Tutorial created in the tutorials forum.

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                    SchreiberBike
                    last edited by

                    Totally awesome. ๐Ÿ‘ I've spent a lot of time looking at bicycles and you are hitting everything right on. Of course, you can only get a reflection on a tire if you use ArmourAll on it and that's not good for the rubber. ๐Ÿ˜„

                    Those welds are masterful, especially making them slightly inconsistent to show that it is hand work. Wow.

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                    • D Offline
                      dylan
                      last edited by

                      Thanks Richard ๐Ÿ‘

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                      • R Offline
                        rsw
                        last edited by

                        Continuing to make slow but steady progress with this...

                        http://www.rsw3d.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/marin-wolf-ridge/thumbs/thumbs_frame9big.jpg

                        (Click to enlarge!)

                        I'm trying not to think about what the poly count and file size of this might be once its complete!

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                          dylan
                          last edited by

                          Looking great. You have certainly got those welds perfected now ๐Ÿ˜„

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                          • monsterzeroM Offline
                            monsterzero
                            last edited by

                            Thanks for the tutorial, Richard! This will add a lot to my vehicles!

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                              rsw
                              last edited by

                              @unknownuser said:

                              Looking great. You have certainly got those welds perfected now ๐Ÿ˜„

                              I'm going to have to do the first few again though, as they don't look as good as the most recent ones, and even though I've got the technique down to a fine art, its still quite time consuming.

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                              • CraigDC Offline
                                CraigD
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                                Hey Richard, I've been following your most excellent work! I have a question on your workflow; I see you are using groups for each weld...why not use components? With a component, the work you do on one, would be duplicated on many, leading to much quicker work. For randomness, you could create three or four weld components, and then copy them in a selectively random pattern.

                                If I understand your workflow properly, this could reduce some time. Just a thought!

                                Cheers,

                                • CraigD

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                                  rsw
                                  last edited by

                                  Usually I would use components, but most of the welded joints are between two non-uniform shapes joined at odd angles which means that non of the individual welds are the same. If I was using a cyclinder and flat surafce for example (as in my brief tuturial) I would use components as the joint is uniform all the way around, but unfortunatly there are very few instances on this model where that occurs.

                                  Richard

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                                  • CraigDC Offline
                                    CraigD
                                    last edited by

                                    That makes sense...I was thinking the same thing when I looked at the frame intersections.

                                    Oh well, manual manipulation it is...just like real hand-made welds!

                                    A very, very cool technique for sure!

                                    Cheers,

                                    • CraigD

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                                      rsw
                                      last edited by

                                      Been on holiday, and haven't had much time since to spend working on this, but have had a little time this weekend to do some. As you can see from the second image the main elements of the frame are now done:

                                      http://www.rsw3d.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/marin-wolf-ridge/thumbs/thumbs_frame10.jpg


                                      http://www.rsw3d.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/marin-wolf-ridge/thumbs/thumbs_frame11.jpg

                                      (Click to enlarge)

                                      Richard

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                                      • boofredlayB Offline
                                        boofredlay
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                                        Beautiful ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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                                        • W Offline
                                          Will03
                                          last edited by

                                          killer work!

                                          whats your file size at now? and what do you think it will be by the end?

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                                            rsw
                                            last edited by

                                            @will03 said:

                                            killer work!

                                            whats your file size at now? and what do you think it will be by the end?

                                            At the moment the file size for the frame is about 8.5 Mb
                                            The front wheel is about 1.3 Mb (which the majority of can be reused for the rear wheel)

                                            So at the moment in total the file size is about 9.8 Mb

                                            Taking into account all the parts that are still to model, by the time I finish I wouldn't be surprised if by the end it is over 50 Mb

                                            At the moment it is probably smaller than I would have expected.

                                            Richard

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